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Issue with vet - Lepto and Lyme?

Still trying to get a vet for Bella so when she arrives (shortly!) I will be all set for her visit within 48 hours that is required by the breeder. Breeder recommends not giving Lepto or Lyme but she is in another part of the country.

So far I have spoken with 2 vet offices who routinely give Lepto and Lyme. When I said that the breeder doesn't recommend them I was told that "breeders are not vets". Um....well aware of that little fact... but by the same token vets are not breeders either.

Anyway, both offices said they see a lot of those diseases in my area (Long Island, NY) and that vacination is the best prevetion. The last office told me that my hav can get Lepto from smelling the urine of a raccoon? We have raccoons in the yard as well as feral cats and the occasional opossum (live not far from a preserve).

Do I trust the breeder or the vet?
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This is a tough one, I"d research this and find out how common it is in your area, maybe you can call the local Health department/ Animal control division and talk to someone there.

I DID have Gucci get the Lepto and Lyme, but that was because I needed her eligible for a state and US Health certificate (to travel and leave the country with her)..and I did read some scary stuff on the net, but my vet assured me that reactions are rare.

I will say, she was more sick feeling after this than she was the other immunizations, she pretty much just slept it off for a day and then was back to herself in about 36 hours.

Pros and cons..as with everything in life,but one will outweigh the other..

let us know what you decide,

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I live on Long Island too and had the same issue with all of mine. I went with the breeder's recommendation. Ultimately my vet said, as long as they aren't out wandering, where they'll likely come in contact with an infected animal. This is not a recommendation though. I'm not qualified to make one. It's just my breeder was adamantly against it.

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I live on LI and would recommend you do some research on this in your area. I am in Nassau Cty and we have racoons, cats, etc. However, my vet understands my concerns and has yielded to them. Kodi is 5yrs tomorrow and Shelby was 4yrs last month, and they still have not been vaccinated for Lepto or Lyme.


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Thanks for the input!

It's so frustrating because either way you're playing the odds!

pjewel and irnfit, I'm in Massapequa Park, not far from the preserve. Of course in the future I'd like to walk Bella in the preserve without worrying.

May I ask you both what vet you use if you would recommend them? Still on my search for a vet and would love one with at least SOME experience with havanese puppies. (You can pm me if you like).

Where did you get your havs?
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My dogs are vaccinated against Lyme, not Lepto. We border a wetland on one side and an utility corridor on another. Lots and lots of ticks. My vet has never suggested a Lepto vaccination.

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The Lepto and Lyme seem to be the most controversial and you will get different opinions from vets and breeders, I'd say the Animal control is your best bet for accuracy on *if* it is a problem in your area, they'd know..as some wild animals don't make it past animal control to a vet or breeder's house (thankfully! lol)

But if you live in an area with ticks or travel to one often, its better to get the vaccine, IMO..Lyme can be just as awful for a dog as it can a human.

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I've been using the same vet for over 25 years. It's Wantagh Animal Hospital.

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Whenever my beasties injured themselves, the first thing the vet ALWAYS check is if it could be Lyme disease. It never has been. My dogs were moronic and hyper Aussies.

My old guy developed tendonitis in his shoulder. The agility A-frame and the evil squirrels aggravated it. Nessie wiped out in the mud while racing around the house to bark at the UPS truck. sigh... My beasties are as klutzy as I am.

I would at least get the Lyme disease shot. Ticks are everywhere. I have had to remove 3 ticks for Jack's head since we got him. I think it is because he is constantly rooting about in the nasty dirt, grass, leaves, etc. I don't know anything about Lepto.

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I agree with Kara , check out the local reports from health board. But Jean Dodds generally doesn; t recommend it. Here's her chart. http://www.weim.net/emberweims/Vaccine.html Do notice the stats re Lyme for the New England states. Oh yeah, if you do decide to get the Lepto, watch carefully for any redness or lump at the vaccination site. Let the vet know. Molly had a reaction to it and the vet recommended not giving it again.

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