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Met our first Hav pup..

..and yep, he was adorable. Very playful, and very puppy, though he would stop for his belly to be rubbed upside down in your arms, and gave kisses, and chased a ball forever!

I think, though, we really need to meet and learn more about adult Havs. My daughter is not even set on getting a puppy (she's pretty mature for 11- she "gets" that all puppies are adorable, but it's the grown up dog she wants as her friend, so she's considering an older dog not just a pup in our search).

Keeping in mind that even the same breed of pup can be different from one to the next...what typically is life with a Hav like? Are they super energetic? Independent? Clingy? Love to do tricks (this one really liked retrieving, which surprised me)? Just happy to be around? Keep you within sight or would rather be underfoot?

The one today reminded me a lot of a Maltese, I know they are the same "family" but I'm sure there are differences, can anyone explain? (I mean temperament not appearance)

Sorry for the million questions. We just take this decision very very seriously and are trying to learn all we can.
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Our Hav loves to walk and chase balls. She prefers sitting in my lap to sitting on the floor. She follows me around the house and would qualify as clingy. She likes to sleep on the bed and does not like being left alone. Our Shih Tzu is more independent. She's just as happy laying on the floor as sitting in my lap. She doesn't follow me everywhere and doesn't seem to mind if we leave for awhile. Our Hav is more sensitive and the Shi Tzu sneezes in my face a lot. Our Hav was the only dog for three years whereas the Shih Tzu had a playmate from the first day. This probably had a lot to do with the different personalities. Both breeds are nice dogs. There are probably many less Hav breeders so they do tend to be more expensive from a good breeder. Shih Tzus from show quality breeders can be found in the $800 range. A well bred Hav will probably be double that and more. Good luck with your decision.
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Visit some breeders that have a number of dogs. There is a wide variety of individual personalities, just like with people. It would also be beneficial for the breeder to meet your daughter so they can start thinking about the right match. Of course there are a lot of breeders that just want to sell a puppy, but some of us really feel the match is most important.
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Visit some breeders that have a number of dogs. There is a wide variety of individual personalities, just like with people. It would also be beneficial for the breeder to meet your daughter so they can start thinking about the right match. Of course there are a lot of breeders that just want to sell a puppy, but some of us really feel the match is most important.
Tom that was one of the problems we were having when Lizzie started her research. I do understand that breeders are busy people (especially if they have puppies) but Lizzie would send off letters with well thought out questions and all she'd get back is "We have 5 puppies and their prices are XXXX to XXXX". Even when we would write about Lizzie's ideal dog (as far as behavior, not looks) she'd pretty much get the same reply.

We did have one breeder who took the time to talk with us and was wonderful, but she was too far away at the time for us to visit.

This is probably also a good place to ask this question, as I know there are quite a few here who breed...how early can you truly know the dogs temperament? (I keep wanting to say personality so forgive me if that slips out)? I know just like any living creature life experiences can change an animal, but also that some creatures are just born spitfires, some are wallflowers, and some are cuddlebugs. Another problem I can anticipate us having is that because this is a companion dog and we think they are all adorable, we don't give a hoot about color, etc (of course we care about a well-bred dog, but you know what I'm trying to say) so its "personality" is the absolutely most important thing to us.

thanks to all who have read and replied, I do appreciate it. As you can see we take this very seriously. My daughter lives for animals and honestly really needs a furry friend now and in the years to come (she's facing some major surgeries two to four years down the road, and we all know how much it can help to have your animal friend nearby).
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Wait to find someone who will take the time to find a good match for your daughter. That person may be someone you have to travel to see-it will be worth it to wait and find a good match.

The breeders on here could answer this better than me, but alot of them do a series of tests to determine aspects of their personality. Things like activity level, dominance, sensitivity, etc. Lily was very sweet and quiet when I first met her. She was a good match for me because she had a medium activity level, was very interested in cuddling with someone, and was a bit submissive. The breeder said she had a bit of a mischevious side to her which I liked. In fact, I had another name picked out for her but I changed it, because "Lily" just fit her sweet personality better. She has really grown and blossomed since she was such a baby and is very social and spirited but still is attached to me and is ok with downtime.
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Crazymasons, if you have already said where you are from in another thread, I am sorry, I don't recall. But sometimes there are regional play dates that various forum members host. Watch the forum for announcements and maybe you could attend one of those, if there is one in your area, to get an idea of the wide range of personalities/temperaments. My Hav, Augie, is just two. He is more independent than some, it seems. He will sit on our laps for a bit, but then wants to go off and lay by himself. He is fine with being left alone. He does not sleep with us - he is fine in his crate. He is playful, loves fetch and especially going for walks. He loves people, kids and other small dogs - doesn't like big dogs so much.

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Tom that was one of the problems we were having when Lizzie started her research. I do understand that breeders are busy people (especially if they have puppies) but Lizzie would send off letters with well thought out questions and all she'd get back is "We have 5 puppies and their prices are XXXX to XXXX". Even when we would write about Lizzie's ideal dog (as far as behavior, not looks) she'd pretty much get the same reply.

We did have one breeder who took the time to talk with us and was wonderful, but she was too far away at the time for us to visit.

This is probably also a good place to ask this question, as I know there are quite a few here who breed...how early can you truly know the dogs temperament? (I keep wanting to say personality so forgive me if that slips out)? I know just like any living creature life experiences can change an animal, but also that some creatures are just born spitfires, some are wallflowers, and some are cuddlebugs. Another problem I can anticipate us having is that because this is a companion dog and we think they are all adorable, we don't give a hoot about color, etc (of course we care about a well-bred dog, but you know what I'm trying to say) so its "personality" is the absolutely most important thing to us.

thanks to all who have read and replied, I do appreciate it. As you can see we take this very seriously. My daughter lives for animals and honestly really needs a furry friend now and in the years to come (she's facing some major surgeries two to four years down the road, and we all know how much it can help to have your animal friend nearby).

If you are anywhere close to us or not, you are welcome to come for a visit. The average first visit is 2 to 3 hours and some last much longer than that. We have not only the pack of dogs that loves kids, but we have horses, cats, and chickens too. One chicken loves to be picked up and will even turn around and back up to you to pick her up. All our horses are very gentle, most born and raised here.

Our daughter was the one that got us into breeding these dogs when she was 8. We not only have animal loving kids (now 22 and 28), but we are an animal loving family. We don't always have puppies with only about three litters a year, but sometimes we do. The 13 adult dogs range in age from 1 to almost 14 and all love kids.
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Tom,
Thank you for your wonderful invitation. We're in Texas (north of Dallas...we just moved here over Labor Day) but should we find ourselves in your part of the country we may just take you up on the offer if for no other reason than you seem like a great family to meet!

What you are describing is actually what we're trying to find. We don't need anyone who has puppies right now as much as someone who is willing to sit with us and show us their dogs in their home environment. We don't want to be all into anyone's business we just want to make sure this is the right "fit" for us breed-wise. We think so, we just want to KNOW so.

When it comes time to purchase I'm hoping we have made enough contacts that we can find a breeder we really trust regardless of where the pup is located (though I have huge nerves about shipping!) We think it's important enough to look all over for the pup that's meant for Lizzie, and need to find someone who can take our description and let us know if a pup comes along they think is right- and is willing to hold off the sale if there isn't one. We're willing to wait for the right pup!

Sorry, I know I'm doing a lot of blabbering but you can see this is a HUGE deal for us...we just want to to what is best not only for us but any dog we bring into our family. They most certainly become family!
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I spent at least 6 months trying to decide what breed to get. I had a maltese who came from a terrible puppy mill, and she had many issues. I had a bichon that was my angel, but she had horrible separation anxiety. The thing that helped me most was a website called yourpurebredpuppy.com. It tells what's good and bad about every breed. The havanese seemed perfect for me. But each dog is an individual, and past experiences influence it's personality. When I finally decided on a breed, the most important thing was how it was raised. It had to be inside a house, not in an outdoor kennel. And Sophie was with 6 adult dogs and 2 cats, which was perfect, as well as her 6 litter mates. She was the first to leave and the smallest, but she is perfect for us.
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Tom,
Thank you for your wonderful invitation. We're in Texas (north of Dallas...we just moved here over Labor Day) but should we find ourselves in your part of the country we may just take you up on the offer if for no other reason than you seem like a great family to meet!

What you are describing is actually what we're trying to find. We don't need anyone who has puppies right now as much as someone who is willing to sit with us and show us their dogs in their home environment. We don't want to be all into anyone's business we just want to make sure this is the right "fit" for us breed-wise. We think so, we just want to KNOW so.

When it comes time to purchase I'm hoping we have made enough contacts that we can find a breeder we really trust regardless of where the pup is located (though I have huge nerves about shipping!) We think it's important enough to look all over for the pup that's meant for Lizzie, and need to find someone who can take our description and let us know if a pup comes along they think is right- and is willing to hold off the sale if there isn't one. We're willing to wait for the right pup!

Sorry, I know I'm doing a lot of blabbering but you can see this is a HUGE deal for us...we just want to to what is best not only for us but any dog we bring into our family. They most certainly become family!
It's great that you are being so careful about your choice. I was like that too.... did a TON of research, first to narrow down the breed, then narrow down to a breeder, than to find the PERFECT puppy. (with the breeder's help) That search eventually lead me to the Kings, and I thinkwe live a similar distance away (I'm in MA) and it did mean flying down there. (WELL worth the trip... I wish we could have stayed longer!!!)

A word of caution, though, MOST of the reputable breeders will not ship a puppy... You'll need to go there to pick the puppy up or, occasionally, you can arrange for someone to bring the puppy to you, in cabin. I STRONGLY recommend this anyway. It was great to meet our breeder face-to-face, and a wonderful bonding experience bringing him home with us.

Is it an added expense? Of course. But amortized over the life of the "perfect" dog for your family, I think it's well worth it.


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