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I was wondering if anyone has had a skittish and very shy Havanese. I got the boy when he was six months from a reputable US breeder and it took over a month for him to allow me to pet him. I have had him for about five months and have seen big improvements but he is still very resistant to being picked up and going for walks. I had to board my boy for a few days and the trainer saw some very interesting behavior. The trainer wasn't sure if my boy had not been socialized when he was young, maybe had more aggressive litter mates or was just wired to be ultra sensitive to his environment. I am hoping someone has had this experience and can give me any pointers / suggestions. Thanks.
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Skittish and shy is not the norm for a Havanese that was properly raised by a reputable breeder. If for some reason the pup turned out that way they should have made sure the new owner was informed of the issues and prepared to do the extra work involved to get past these issues.

Aside from the trainer who observed him at the boarding facility has he had any training or socialization since you brought him home?
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Skittish and shy is not the norm for a Havanese that was properly raised by a reputable breeder. If for some reason the pup turned out that way they should have made sure the new owner was informed of the issues and prepared to do the extra work involved to get past these issues.

Aside from the trainer who observed him at the boarding facility has he had any training or socialization since you brought him home?
agree. I would get an assessment done by a good trainer.

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I have had someone who specializes in dog obedience / training (four generations) and he agreed with the boarder assessment. It has been a slow process but there have been improvements in Boston's behavior. I have setup "doggy play dates" twice a week for the past month and have seen progress albeit small progress. Basically I was advised to take it slow and not give the boy too much stimulus at once. In the beginning the poor boy would hide under the bed and sneak out to eat / drink then hide again. He now follows me around the house and doesn't hide when someone comes to the door.

As far as the breeder, I checked with previous people who had gotten puppys and there were no negatives. I contacted the breeder about Boston's behavior and never heard back.
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I contacted the breeder about Boston's behavior and never heard back.
Well, there you go. A good breeder will always be there for you and their dogs.
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Reputable breeders want to follow up with the owners of their puppies for their lifetimes. They make themselves available to answer questions. BUT, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that keep any person from responding to an email or a phone message.

If I were you, I would not take a lack of a response to a single attempt at contact as being ignored. I would try every avenue of contact I had at my disposal: telephone, text message, email, and Facebook and showing up at the breeder's doorstep.

This puppy's temperament is not normal for a well-socialized Havanese. Some breeders I have heard about may ignore temperament issues in the parents in order to breed for color or some other characteristic. Then the puppy's human parents are left to deal with the problem.

You may need to handle this as if he had been a puppymill dog with a lot of patience and positive reinforcement. Good luck!
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Good luck and I wish your new pup had been less of a challenge for you.

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I was wondering if anyone has had a skittish and very shy Havanese. I got the boy when he was six months from a reputable US breeder and it took over a month for him to allow me to pet him. I have had him for about five months and have seen big improvements but he is still very resistant to being picked up and going for walks. I had to board my boy for a few days and the trainer saw some very interesting behavior. The trainer wasn't sure if my boy had not been socialized when he was young, maybe had more aggressive litter mates or was just wired to be ultra sensitive to his environment. I am hoping someone has had this experience and can give me any pointers / suggestions. Thanks.
I can relate - though my Perry came from a rescue and we got him at 8 months old. He is extremely afraid of new things (and unfortunately, where we live there aren't many opportunities for outside socialization, plus he gets really car sick so have to weigh that against taking him places) and is very fearful of new people, most especially men. He's been fine with me and a few other women (like my Mom when we're in the US) almost from day 1 though. What I do is probably not that possible for you since you are one of the things that he's still a bit resistant to. First, I decided not to focus too heavily on training - we have done some from since I got him, but I've wanted to concentrate more on him trusting me. Second, and I know this is probably not the exact right way to do it, but when he's afraid of something I do pick him up. rather than have him cower behind my legs or go and hide (or hide and bark), if someone comes to the door and he's afraid, I'll pick him up - I do not pet him or coddle him, but I do hold him and approach the person/ situation, talking to him. I don't 'make' him let someone pet him - if he still doesn't want to be touched, that's ok. He trusts that I'll keep him safe and feels more secure and it allows me to introduce him to others. for people who will be around for a while (a few hours) I then let him wander and approach them at his own pace.
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I got Rollo at 14 weeks, he had not been socialised, was afraid of his own shadow and wouldn't go near other people. First training class I took him to he just sat under a chair and shook. I purposely exposed him to as many people and dogs as possible, while not pushing it on him, like Melissa letting him approach in his own time. Within a few months he was running up to people and jumping up to be petted Perhaps I overdid it as I now have the opposite problem, how to stop him going up to random people and other dogs and bothering them. He is quite reactive and hyperactive which could also be a symptom of no early socialisation. Rollo also gets very car sick which I am hoping is something he will grow out of. Once he has fully recovered from his neutering, the training starts in earnest.

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