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Carpet and Towels = Toilet

Here is an interesting situation and I have an idea on how to proceed but I wanted to check with the "experts". Snickers in 2+ now and is 98% potty trained - or at least I thought he was. Our kitchen and den are connected and gated away from the rest of the house and have the same tile floor. He has a bed in each room and NEVER goes potty on them. His 13-year old Cavalier brother will scratch at the door when he needs to go out but Snickers will sit quietly at the back door (out of sight of the den couch). We have noticed recently that, if a gate is left open and he runs upstairs to the carpeted floor (or there is a towel or mat in the kitchen), he will pee and poop on them. He thinks the carpet is grass. We never see it so we can never "correct" him but, when we see the gate open, we KNOW there will be poop somewhere upstairs. So he is trained based on opportunity. That is not good.

To start, I am going to do door-bell training with him so we can "hear" when he needs to go out. But I am not sure that will be enough. How do you teach him that carpet is NOT grass?
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yeah ,he's no where near 98 percent housetrained. You have to go back to basics and confine when not supervised. You need to take him out frequently and reward for successful elimination. You can't correct him for eliminating in the house and especially after the fact. He will do what he is now doing and sneak off out of your sight. Bells are for later ,once he is reliably trained.
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But he NEVER goes on the first floor (with the tiles or wood) in the house. He will only go if he has access to carpeting upstairs. So why would I keep him a crate on that floor? I am not sure that will "teach" him anything.
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dogs prefer certain substrates. Carpets feel familiar and like grass to them . He can't have access to them. In general you need to make outdoors preferable and REWARDING .
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Yes. So that is the other thing we have done. We are praising him and giving him treats every time he pees or poops outside. Sadly, I am not sure that the lack of treats when peeing/pooping on the carpet when no one is watching will be enough of a disincentive not to do it. So that is my dilemma. If I ALWAYS keep him away from carpet, I will never have a problem. But I need him to stop going there during the times he has access. Mind you, when he goes upstairs for bed time (right after his walk) he doesn't make. That is why I think the bells will help. But he still needs to learn that the carpet is not grass and I can't get into his little cute head to figure out how to get through to him .
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bottom line, is that right now he can't have access to carpets. How long has he been going on the carpets?

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read the first paragraph first https://mrsbehaviour.com/2015/04/20/...-of-the-bells/

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But he NEVER goes on the first floor (with the tiles or wood) in the house. He will only go if he has access to carpeting upstairs. So why would I keep him a crate on that floor? I am not sure that will "teach" him anything.
You need to have supervised (CLOSELY supervised) time in the parts of the house where he is currently not reliable. When I was expanding the “safe” territory for each of mine, I was with them every moment in those areas. We played and trained and spent time together in those rooms, so they got to know them as “living space”, not potty area.
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I really sympathize. I have 2 Havanese. Bentley never goes in the house. It's all tile and laminate.

If I miss a cue from Oliver he will go on the bathroom mat if I forget to close the door and or pick it up.

But his favorite place is on the tile in front of the fireplace. I ask him why but he just sits there, cocks his head and looks cute.

Thankfully this happens only rarely if I miss his silent cue.
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I'm sorry to hear Snickers doesn't totally understand the correct potty spot and hope the bell training works out. Until then invest in a large container of Nature's Miracle - I went thru several industrial size containers before i finally got my Jerry 100% trained and it really worked on the odors. Best wishes
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