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anyone given their dog Clomicalm?

well, poor Djangos SA has risen to a new level. he was fine when we left but now, he's freaking out when we head out the door. new SA behavior. the peeing is out of control when we are gone. i have pee pee pads everywhere so cleanup is easy.
the vet decided to put him on Clomical. i am going out of town again wednesday and won't start him on this until i return. i want to monitor him for a few weeks incase there are any side effects. the vet thinks he will just need this for a few months and then we can slowly take him off the meds and hopefully no more SA and peeing.
has anyone out there give their dogs Clomical?
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well, poor Djangos SA has risen to a new level. he was fine when we left but now, he's freaking out when we head out the door. new SA behavior. the peeing is out of control when we are gone. i have pee pee pads everywhere so cleanup is easy.
the vet decided to put him on Clomical. i am going out of town again wednesday and won't start him on this until i return. i want to monitor him for a few weeks incase there are any side effects. the vet thinks he will just need this for a few months and then we can slowly take him off the meds and hopefully no more SA and peeing.
has anyone out there give their dogs Clomical?
Sorry to hear you have found no relief. Many trainers will recommend Clomicalm or Rescue Remedy type drugs along with a behavioral modification program. I' m always reluctant to use drugs, but realize that they do have their place. Drs. Dodman and Overall are pioneers in the field of these type of drugs and their use in the pet industry. And I just was in a spirited debate at DSD about the use of psychological drugs in our pets. My first choice will always be behavior modification and then as a last resort ,these type of drugs. The problem is that 99 percent of vets that recommend these drugs, do not have any training in the behavior mod. field. It always comes down to personal choice. I've researched this area, and here is the best article I have found. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/INTROD......-a064224209
To me , this statement near the end of the article says a lot. "Following two months, 65 percent of the Clomicalm dogs continued to improve compared to 55 percent of the others. "These tests reflected the importance of behavior-modification therapy," emphasizes Overall. "Without it, the progress would have been considerably less". And here's some techical info . http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed...rchiveid=15564

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thank you for the 2 links. we have continued to work on behavior modification. we spent all day today going in and out of the house. my hope is that the training along with the meds will take the edge off our dog.

the behaviorist at the clinic has worked with us for months on Django and has worked along side with his regular vet. i feel confident in our plan. we truly have tried several other alternatives that just aren't working. meds were the last option on her list. my plan is to start him with half the recommended dose and see how he does. it just pains me to see him so stressed when we leave but we love him and will do what we can to help him get to a good place. the thought of putting him down or giving him up has never and would never be an option.

we have been down this road before (3 years ago) and if this is our new norm for now, so be it. after this coming weekend we will be home until the end of january so my hope is that we can nip it by then. i think our travels have contributed to the problem even though the dog sitter comes to the house and is amazing with him. she's still not us! the behaviorist also believed and is hopeful that the meds will only be temporary.
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Sounds like you're doing everything you can. My compliments. It is a difficult behavior to change. For thousands of years we've bred these guys to be social animals and we expect them to be happy when we leave them alone. Quite the culture shock. Keep us posted.

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I am sorry to hear about Djangos. I can't image how you feel. It must be heartbreaking. Sounds like you tried everything and have no other choice then to use the medicine. I hope it works. Please keep us posted.
I know some people think another dog will help, but I never believed that. My guys are fine when I leave my house. If they are at a strange house, Sciudder will wimper for a couple minutes if I leave. It doesn't matter that his sibling's, cousin, and other humans are with him





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Little Buddy, this might not be a help at all,... but would even a kitten or two add enough company (without the demand that another dog would require,) to keep Django not to feel alone while you are gone, so he felt more secure?

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DH is VERY allergic to cats, he coughs up hair-balls whenever we go to his sisters house who has a cat. i have read that adding another pet to the household doesn't help with SA just the boredom. hope the clomicalm helps. we worked a bit today on the coming and going in and out of the house, training sessions with down stay etc. i think we just need to be patient and hopefully this will work its way thru just like it always has in the past.
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