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This may sound like a dumb question but what about giving them a variety of different proteins regularly? Like chicken one day, turkey the next etc. Just curious about this as I've never seen it as an option. I'm sure there are good reasons. Like allergies.



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This may sound like a dumb question but what about giving them a variety of different proteins regularly? Like chicken one day, turkey the next etc. Just curious about this as I've never seen it as an option. I'm sure there are good reasons. Like allergies.
Within the same brand, I give Loki different proteins - beef, lamb, duck, salmon - it doesn't seem to bother him. That said - he doesn't want to eat anything at the moment. He appears to be on a hunger strike but he will eat when he gets hungry enough.
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Within the same brand, I give Loki different proteins - beef, lamb, duck, salmon - it doesn't seem to bother him. That said - he doesn't want to eat anything at the moment. He appears to be on a hunger strike but he will eat when he gets hungry enough.
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Scarlett's mom: Do you mix the proteins at first? I mean did you feed beef then mix 25% salmon with the beef, then 50% etc. until you are all salmon. I have been feeding the same wellness core puppy for months, possibly four. I started mixing the the core raw rev and have been feeding 50% of each for a couple months. (Joy seemed too heavy so even though she was the age for puppy food, she got 50% puppy and 50% adult raw rev, and that is what she still has now that she is with her handler) I started Kosmo's life with me on frozen raw and stubbornly kept him on that for his first three months with me, many trips to the vet with diariah until the third vet that told me to get him off it and got through to me. He had been on this core puppy kibble (chicken) for months since. Firm stool resulted.

My dogs have shiny coats and tongues are red, noses moist and cool. They look healthy to me, at any rate.

Now when I fed raw I did switch sources of protein abruptly. When a bag of beef was finished I would start with venison, etc.

Of course now I am convinced I need to switch kibble to salmon and beef, etc. You know, mix proteins. Dave posted on this issue before.

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This may sound like a dumb question but what about giving them a variety of different proteins regularly? Like chicken one day, turkey the next etc. Just curious about this as I've never seen it as an option. I'm sure there are good reasons. Like allergies.
yes if you are mixing the different proteins thats fine. But don't use every protein available, you want to keep some of the more exotic ones untried should they develop intolerance to certain ones.

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Prior to getting Patrick, I started following Rodney Habib and was intrigued with his advice on raw feeding being the healthiest diet for dogs. I kept Patrick on breeder's kibble choice (Merrick Lil' Plates) and slowly started adding Stella & Chewy raw mix-ins. We did this for a few weeks and started adding S & C raw coated kibble in with other kibble. That worked but as we phased more of the new kibble in the diarrhea started. Frustrated I could not get his stools to firm up, I brought him to the vet who said he was reacting to the raw food and he would get better if we stopped feeding it. We stopped and the diarrhea stopped. Patrick will be 6 months old at end of week and he is eating the Merrick kibble, mixed with one raw nugget at breakfast and is on a Mercola probiotic. I am feeling soooo guilty that he is on kibble because of the information that Habib has provided about the sugar in kibble and the low moisture content; Definitely not how his ancestors ate. Any advice on how I can provide Patrick with the best nutrition without creating havoc in his intestines? Thank you so much!
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Prior to getting Patrick, I started following Rodney Habib and was intrigued with his advice on raw feeding being the healthiest diet for dogs. I kept Patrick on breeder's kibble choice (Merrick Lil' Plates) and slowly started adding Stella & Chewy raw mix-ins. We did this for a few weeks and started adding S & C raw coated kibble in with other kibble. That worked but as we phased more of the new kibble in the diarrhea started. Frustrated I could not get his stools to firm up, I brought him to the vet who said he was reacting to the raw food and he would get better if we stopped feeding it. We stopped and the diarrhea stopped. Patrick will be 6 months old at end of week and he is eating the Merrick kibble, mixed with one raw nugget at breakfast and is on a Mercola probiotic. I am feeling soooo guilty that he is on kibble because of the information that Habib has provided about the sugar in kibble and the low moisture content; Definitely not how his ancestors ate. Any advice on how I can provide Patrick with the best nutrition without creating havoc in his intestines? Thank you so much!
I have no advice on raw, but I wanted to say that I bought two giant bags of Merrick kibble for my daughter's collies, (the fish based one) and their coats got very glossy. My little undersized Zoey did fine on raw, and really enjoyed it. Kosmo reacted as did your Patrick. I keep the Stella and Chewy freeze dried patties on hand and pinch off bits as treats for daily training. Each of them get about half a patty that way, and guess what, only one stool a day for Kosmo but the last bit is runny. Sheesh!

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Prior to getting Patrick, I started following Rodney Habib and was intrigued with his advice on raw feeding being the healthiest diet for dogs. I kept Patrick on breeder's kibble choice (Merrick Lil' Plates) and slowly started adding Stella & Chewy raw mix-ins. We did this for a few weeks and started adding S & C raw coated kibble in with other kibble. That worked but as we phased more of the new kibble in the diarrhea started. Frustrated I could not get his stools to firm up, I brought him to the vet who said he was reacting to the raw food and he would get better if we stopped feeding it. We stopped and the diarrhea stopped. Patrick will be 6 months old at end of week and he is eating the Merrick kibble, mixed with one raw nugget at breakfast and is on a Mercola probiotic. I am feeling soooo guilty that he is on kibble because of the information that Habib has provided about the sugar in kibble and the low moisture content; Definitely not how his ancestors ate. Any advice on how I can provide Patrick with the best nutrition without creating havoc in his intestines? Thank you so much!


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Prior to getting Patrick, I started following Rodney Habib and was intrigued with his advice on raw feeding being the healthiest diet for dogs. I kept Patrick on breeder's kibble choice (Merrick Lil' Plates) and slowly started adding Stella & Chewy raw mix-ins. We did this for a few weeks and started adding S & C raw coated kibble in with other kibble. That worked but as we phased more of the new kibble in the diarrhea started. Frustrated I could not get his stools to firm up, I brought him to the vet who said he was reacting to the raw food and he would get better if we stopped feeding it. We stopped and the diarrhea stopped. Patrick will be 6 months old at end of week and he is eating the Merrick kibble, mixed with one raw nugget at breakfast and is on a Mercola probiotic. I am feeling soooo guilty that he is on kibble because of the information that Habib has provided about the sugar in kibble and the low moisture content; Definitely not how his ancestors ate. Any advice on how I can provide Patrick with the best nutrition without creating havoc in his intestines? Thank you so much!
Tux eats Primal Raw Freeze Dried. It comes in a dry brick that you can crumble to bite sized bits. They say to mix it with water, but he won't touch it if its wet! He loves it dry. Then he drinks raw goat milk (a table spoon each meal), and fresh filtered water from the fridge. He has never had a stool problem.....consistent one-time a day potty, firm stool, no smell. He's had Primal for two years...his entire life.

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