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I've been reading up on all the threads regarding Grooming so that I am ready for when I get my puppy. However, I am a little confused as to what to get. From what I have read, it seems that scissor cutting is the way to go - - easier, though it takes longer, even the professional people will use scissors, and less expensive than those clippers. However, don't I still need clippers to do the feet, and the sanitary grooming? If not, how are you doing those tasks?

Also, is it true I don't really have to do any serious grooming during the first year, other than to get the puppy used to the idea of grooming (I plan to go with a longer cut)? But I would think the sanitary grooming is something I will have to take care of almost immediately, right? Or does the hair grow so slowly, it won't be an issue?

That reminds me of another question I had - - is it just luck, or genetics in whether my puppy will have lots of matting issues, or have more silky hair? How would I know when selecting a puppy?

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I would recommend a good pair of thinning shears and a good pair of clippers. Clippers are safer for the sanitary areas than scissors. You'll also need smaller scissors for the feet. You should get your dog accustomed to the grooming a soon as possible even when you don't need to do any cutting. If money is no object, get a grooming table, get a mini clipper for the feet, curved shears, different sized clipper blades, etc... Don't forget the nail cutters too.
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I would recommend a good pair of thinning shears and a good pair of clippers. Clippers are safer for the sanitary areas than scissors. You'll also need smaller scissors for the feet. You should get your dog accustomed to the grooming a soon as possible even when you don't need to do any cutting. If money is no object, get a grooming table, get a mini clipper for the feet, curved shears, different sized clipper blades, etc... Don't forget the nail cutters too.
Thanks for the input! Question - - can I use the min-clipper also for the sanitary areas, or do I get a regular clipper for those areas (I read I should also trim the arm and leg pits and the tummy area?). If I have to get both a regular and a mini one, will the clipper blades work for both? Do you recommend any specific mini and/o regular clipper?
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Thanks for the input! Question - - can I use the min-clipper also for the sanitary areas, or do I get a regular clipper for those areas (I read I should also trim the arm and leg pits and the tummy area?). If I have to get both a regular and a mini one, will the clipper blades work for both? Do you recommend any specific mini and/o regular clipper?
It's hard to recommend a clipper since I don't know the length you will keep your dog. For Mochi, I use thinners for the body and clippers for the arm and leg pits, chest and tummy. You can probably use a pair of mini clippers too. Andis and Wahl make good clippers and some have adjustable blades so you don't have to buy different sizes. You can also buy guide combs. It depends if you really commit to do the grooming yourself. It's not something everyone can do
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I have good professional quality clippers that I use for full body clips, but I use these little tiny ones for sani trims, armpits, etc. They are light weight, quiet and cheap. I'm on my second set in 9 years:

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I have good professional quality clippers that I use for full body clips, but I use these little tiny ones for sani trims, armpits, etc. They are light weight, quiet and cheap. I'm on my second set in 9 years:

https://smile.amazon.com/Wahl-Profes...3F26EYVFYN288Z
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It's hard to recommend a clipper since I don't know the length you will keep your dog. For Mochi, I use thinners for the body and clippers for the arm and leg pits, chest and tummy. You can probably use a pair of mini clippers too. Andis and Wahl make good clippers and some have adjustable blades so you don't have to buy different sizes. You can also buy guide combs. It depends if you really commit to do the grooming yourself. It's not something everyone can do
WOW! It seems there is always a new tool to find out all about! LOL! I had to look up "guide combs". Looks like something that will be beyond me for awhile. I have never groomed a dog, but am committed to learn. I like the longer look; I've read that 3" is a nice length to keep them at. Definitely the face, ears and mustache will be kept long. I am looking forward to playing with different hair designs to keep the hair out of the eyes. I have ordered the book "From Nose to Tail" and plan to get the Jodi Murphy video. I wish there was a groomer nearby who would teach me, rather than me learning from my mistakes (the typical way I learn).
Thank you, again, for your input.
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As you pointed out you do need to get the puppy used to grooming. Not sure what you mean by serious grooming, however I am sure your puppy will get matting within the first year that you will need to deal with. Prevention is best by regular combing. Ultimately a comb is better than a bristle brush to get down to the skin (however you may start off will something soft -purely to train acceptance of grooming - a bristle brush won’t do much so far as actual grooming of the havanese coat is concerned).
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As you pointed out you do need to get the puppy used to grooming. Not sure what you mean by serious grooming, however I am sure your puppy will get matting within the first year that you will need to deal with. Prevention is best by regular combing. Ultimately a comb is better than a bristle brush to get down to the skin (however you may start off will something soft -purely to train acceptance of grooming - a bristle brush won’t do much so far as actual grooming of the havanese coat is concerned).
So, the pin brush will be more just to accustom him to grooming, and the comb is what I will use to remove the matting and to make his hair "pretty"? Will I use the pin brush more when he has his adult hair?
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WOW! It seems there is always a new tool to find out all about! LOL! I had to look up "guide combs". Looks like something that will be beyond me for awhile. I have never groomed a dog, but am committed to learn. I like the longer look; I've read that 3" is a nice length to keep them at. Definitely the face, ears and mustache will be kept long. I am looking forward to playing with different hair designs to keep the hair out of the eyes. I have ordered the book "From Nose to Tail" and plan to get the Jodi Murphy video. I wish there was a groomer nearby who would teach me, rather than me learning from my mistakes (the typical way I learn).
Thank you, again, for your input.
If you are going to play with clippers (beyond the little trimmers for sani trims) you absolutely HAVE to have guide combs (they aren't expensive) on the clipper blades. Otherwise, you will basically shave the dog.

A 3" clip, on most Havanese, is not going to save you from matting. And it depends how much undercoat the dog has. A dog like Tux has enough undercoat that he looks adorable and fluffy at 3-4". For dogs with less undercoat, like mine, a 3" clip would not stand up and look fluffy... it would just part down the middle of their backs and make a funny line between clipped and unclipped on their sides. Pixel gets clipped to about 2", and at that length, it can puff up and make her look "fluffy". By 6 weeks after, she's definitely looking in need of a trim. I think 2-2 1/2" is as long as can be done with clippers. longer than that, and they need to be scissored. Scissor cuts are a LOT more work if you do it yourself (and take a lot more practice!) and are also quite a bit more expensive if you have it done professionally because it's a lot more time consuming for the groomer.

I've attached some photos of Pixel, at 2", so you can see what a smaller, lighter undercoat Havanese looks like at 2". If she gets to 3", she's starting to get mats, and needs a lot more grooming. at 2 - 2 1/2", she's pretty much wash and wear. I comb her out before she goes to lessons, and after a bath. That's it. But, you can see in the last photo, when she wasn't freshly washed and fluffed, (and probably several weeks since a haircut) that her coat flattens out.

My full coat ones with the light undercoats need to be combed out at 2-3 times per week now that they are in their adult coats. But on that schedule, those with the heavier undercoats would get mats... mine don't. I guess my point is that what length you clip, and how hard the coat is to maintain depends a LOT on the individual coat. I am drawn to the silkier coats without a ton of undercoat, partly because I LOVE having them in full coat. But those that HAVE the thick undercoat are the ones who maintain that adorable "puppy" look, even if they are cut short, as adults.
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