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I am the proud owner of a 13 week old Havanese girl named Sadie. Sadie is our first family pet and we just love her to death. I am not sure if Sadie has separation anxiety or not... Here is the issue that we are facing... When Sadie is at home all by herself (in a expen with food, water, toys and bed) or out of sight of someone, she cries and bark until she is tired. She doesn't do that if she can see someone and is perfectly content in that case to be in either her expen or crate. Being that this is our first puppy, and there is not a "nurse line" for puppies like there was when we had our first child for adivce. I was hoping my fellow Havanese owners could educate/reassure me if this is true separation anxiety or if this is something she will eventually grow out of, similiar to the behavior a baby exhibits when it wants to be constantly held. We talked to the breeder where we got her from and she said Sadie didn't exhibit any separation anxiety... Breaks our hearts to see our little girl upset when we are not around or if she can't see us when we are at home. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome and hi, diamond dave LOL. yeah this is probably best termed separation distress, rather than the more severe SA. Here is an article and follow the links in it. http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/separation-anxiety

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I think its great that your puppy will be calm in his pin when someone is around. That means a good since of security.
I bought Maddie a x pin and had here crate in side it she cried and cried. The only time she was happy was when she was with me.
The biggest mistake I made was taking her out and not training her to be away from me. I have created a monster. I think I have just as bad separation anxiety as she does I feel guilty leaving her alone. I just can't stand the tears

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SA does make you feel really guilty when you leave them. I had a bichon that had the worst. She would howl from the time I left til I got back, even if other members of the family were there. I was determined Sophie would not be that way. I've always made my leaving her a happy time-I put her in my sunny mudroom with her bully and I give her her favorite treat when I leave. I work 2 half days a week, and when I come home after 5 hours, she has not peed or done anything but sleep in her open crate, I think. I do know this could change when she's older, but so far so good. She's never peed in her crate.
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SA does make you feel really guilty when you leave them. I had a bichon that had the worst. She would howl from the time I left til I got back, even if other members of the family were there. I was determined Sophie would not be that way. I've always made my leaving her a happy time-I put her in my sunny mudroom with her bully and I give her her favorite treat when I leave. I work 2 half days a week, and when I come home after 5 hours, she has not peed or done anything but sleep in her open crate, I think. I do know this could change when she's older, but so far so good. She's never peed in her crate.
Right on , that's what I like to hear. You have to start working on this from day one.

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We had the same issue with Chewy. We work outside the home and leave Chewy in an expen. He has a dog walker that comes an hour in the morning and 45 minutes in the afternoon. When we first started leaving him at 13 weeks he had bad separation distress. He would cry and bark...it was horrible and sad. It took about 3 weeks for him to get used to the schedule. He cries a little when I leave but nothing too bad...so from my experience it gets A LOT better!
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Welcome.
It's been a long time since I dealt with this issue. I seem to remember all my guys would cry as soon as I was out of their sight. It didn't matter if they were in another room, in the car, or in their crate. I did the normal stuff to get them used to me coming and going. I practiced leaving the room and coming back many times throughout the day. I would not make a big deal of coming and going. I know Scuddy was my worst offender. Sometimes he still whimpers when I leave and he is 4 years old. He is mommy little baby He only whines for a couple minutes. Anyway, I would leave and wait for him to quite down, before I came back. Sometime I would have to shout, "quiet" from the other room. I would come back into the room when he was quiet, but (this is key) I would not go to him right away. I would go into the room and do something else for just a beat. Then I would pay attention to him and tell him he was a good boy. I did notice if ran right back to him once he was quiet, without giving it a beat, he's crying got worse. Good luck. I know how much it breaks your heart. You might also try leaving a radio or tv on when you leave the room.





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SA does make you feel really guilty when you leave them. I had a bichon that had the worst. She would howl from the time I left til I got back, even if other members of the family were there. I was determined Sophie would not be that way. I've always made my leaving her a happy time-I put her in my sunny mudroom with her bully and I give her her favorite treat when I leave. I work 2 half days a week, and when I come home after 5 hours, she has not peed or done anything but sleep in her open crate, I think. I do know this could change when she's older, but so far so good. She's never peed in her crate.
(Bold is mine). Be careful of leaving your pup with a bullystick without supervision. They can choke or get a piece caught in their mouth/throat. Mine will get a small piece caught between their teeth and gums and get frantic trying to get it out - it will scare the s*** out of you! They rarely can get it out themselves, I have to remove it. Mine like a kong filled with canned food and then frozen.

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Thanks for all the good advice.

Cherin - You described my situation exactly! Thank you for giving me hope that it gets better.
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