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What do you all think about the latest on this? I'm asking because I had been feeding Perry grain free for the last year - and recently switched to Fromm and some of that is grain free. I don't want to stop it if it's not that serious (do you think it would have happened by now if it were going to?) - though will consider with the next batch of getting the regular Fromm/ not the grain free, but if I decide not to feed him what I have right now that means a few months of either really low quality dog food (I mean really really low) or figuring out a home cooked diet - until we can get back to the US and get different food.
Ricky eats Honest Kitchen dehydrated food and we mix in the protein, usually boiled chicken breast or sometimes tuna or lean beef. We then mix in a little bit of dry kibble to balance things out. I agree with @Barbara Levy that a balanced diet, in moderation, is best. Remember that dogs are basically carnivores and a pet nutritionist told me that vegetables, fruits, and grains just pass right on through while extracting some essential nutrients. The danger, in my opinion. is feeding a grain free diet that may be high in protein but low in other essential nutrients, in other words just cheap fillers. We give Ricky very little cheese and peanut butter (only in moderation) because of the danger of pancreatitis. Stay informed, stay vigilant.


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On other food issues - I decided to switch him off chicken because so many people were talking about chicken allergies. He's still chewing on his feet a little too much, but getting rid of the chicken has improved the runny eyes. I know it was that because we were off it when we were in the US (and had added the new probiotic) and the eyes had cleared up a lot, when we came back I had a little of the chicken left, so I was mixing it with his new food - and the runny eyes came back, then just threw the rest away and am just using the new food, and the eyes have cleared up. They're still slightly damp, but no where near as bad.
Ricky gets various supplements on a daily basis including probiotics. He still had runny eyes and tear staining. The Vet sent us to a canine ophthalmologist a couple of years ago and said he had healthy eyes. The Vet said that's good, then something else might be the problem, maybe seasonal allergies. He told us to try one half a human Benedryll (they come in 25mg tablet so half would be 12.5 mg.) with Ricky's morning meal. The runny eyes (which the Vet said was primarily mucus) went away and so did the tear staining. I am NOT telling you to try this. I'm just saying what has worked for Ricky. ALWAYS CONSULT WITH YOUR TRUSTED VET BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING NEW. Every dog is different.

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I'm glad you brought this up. My daughter sent me a link to an article about this. We just started feeding Molly Instinct Raw boost. It's the first food she really loves. As long as I supplement it with venison from our freezer that I cook and chop and add to her food with the venison broth. Her food doesn't have sweet potatoes and has 37% protein plus what I supplement. I actually meant to ask the vet about it, but forgot with all the other issues going on. I'll watch and wait but she is definitely allergic to some grain. When I feed her grain she scratches incessantly and her eyes weep really bad. Grain free, she doesn't scratch and her eyes are much improved. What are the long term effects of an untreated allergy? I heard that the weeping from the eyes is an indication of what's going on internally. I "know" the grain is affecting her, I don't "know" that her heart is being affected. I'll have to hear something more definitive before I act on this.

I feel sorry for people who don't have dogs. I hear they have to pick up food they drop on the floor.
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a few weeks ago I wrote Jean Dodds a letter about this. and maybe a few others. Here is her article https://drjeandoddspethealthresource...-heart-disease

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Ricky's Popi - you mentioned that you give Ricky a taurine supplement - what do you give him and what dosage?
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I'm so confused after reading this. I want to change what I'm feeding my 5 month old and would like an uncomplicated answer. Someone JUST TELL ME! She's getting Royal Canine Kibble and I've periodically added broth or other canned food. I have treats and always buy Made in America. I'm not interested in cooking her food. Interesting topic.
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I'm so confused after reading this. I want to change what I'm feeding my 5 month old and would like an uncomplicated answer. Someone JUST TELL ME! She's getting Royal Canine Kibble and I've periodically added broth or other canned food. I have treats and always buy Made in America. I'm not interested in cooking her food. Interesting topic.
Don't you wish it would work like that? There are so many choices and so many opinions and everyone has made a decision based on what they think is the best they can do. Sometimes you make a choice and then someone says 'you could do better than that' even though you did the research and it was a 5 star food... or you make a choice and then keep reading and think 'maybe that one is really better'. It's a never ending cycle (says the person who seems to change every 6 months - hopefully that will end soon).

Dogfoodadvisor.com is a good place to start - you can look at their 5 start or 4 1/2 star foods and see what seems like the best that you can afford. You can do what I do which is to mix something I think is really high end (stella and chewy freeze dried patties) with kibble (I do one morning the other evening) because one is really really expensive so this improves his food but doesn't bankrupt us . You can go with canned or raw or kibble - or a combination. I know, the choices are endless.

Sorry not to be more help, but it should be difficult for anyone to tell you what to do because your circumstances aren't exactly the same as someone else's.
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Melissa, can one put the freeze dried in a Kong as a treat? How long does it last once it is thawed out?
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Melissa, can one put the freeze dried in a Kong as a treat? How long does it last once it is thawed out?
Hi Jeannie

The freeze dried isn't actually frozen (despite the name) - it's dry which is why I can bring it with me from the US to Uganda. They come in resealable bags like the small bags of kibble, and I thnk they last as long as kibble would. The meal mixers are in smaller pieces, the patties are kind of hockey puck size rounds. I break them up and moisten them to serve though I think you can serve them dry too.

As for the Kong - hmmm, maybe? It might depend on how much you moisten them and what size pieces you break them into. I would never be able to do it with as much water as I add, but maybe with less it would sort of be like loose can food, but I'm not really sure. My first instinct was that it would fall apart too much, but I also guess it would depend on how much you packed it in.
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I think what you can do with a kong is to moisten the freeze dried food, stuff the kong with and then freeze it. Then you can give the dog the frozen kong.

I feed something similar to Melissa. I feed about 1/2 good quality kibble mixed with a broken up Stella and Chewy's patty and moisten the while thing.

And I totally understand and sympathize with feeling overwhelmed by the variety of foods all claiming to be best. arghh.
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I think what you can do with a kong is to moisten the freeze dried food, stuff the kong with and then freeze it. Then you can give the dog the frozen kong.

I feed something similar to Melissa. I feed about 1/2 good quality kibble mixed with a broken up Stella and Chewy's patty and moisten the while thing.

And I totally understand and sympathize with feeling overwhelmed by the variety of foods all claiming to be best. arghh.
I haven't figured out to stuff a kong, either the stuffing just falls out or if frozen it seems to much of a challenge for my puppy's soft chew mouth. I'll try to moisten the freeze dried food and see if that works.
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