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An interesting new study on harnesses

I think the take home for most Havanese people is that MOST Havanese should still be in Harnesses for walking, but it's really important that the harness be fitted properly!:

https://www.avidogzink.com/to-harnes...eid=55d7076bd1

We don't want to damage our dogs' shoulders but their tracheas and the other structures in their necks are at even greater risk unless the dog is really well trained and absolutely reliable in terms of loose leash walking.
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I seems that with any option, teaching polite loose lead walking is of significant importance!
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Interesting! It was a bit hard to read for me as a foreigner, but I think I got the gist of it.
Thanks for sharing!
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I seems that with any option, teaching polite loose lead walking is of significant importance!
Absolutely, but one walk around town is enough to show how few people actually teach this skill, and I hate to say it, but little dog people are the worst, I think becuase it doesn't hurt so much to get your arms pulled out of the sockets by a little dog. 😉
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Ricky wears a non-restrictive harness on his walkies. It is not like the one pictured in the article. It is a wide, padded "Y" that distributes the stress on his chest (sternum) and passes high above his legs to his back. The bottom of the "Y" passes between his legs and under his belly. The piece then passes on each side of his back and connects to the two ends of the upper "Y". I can attach a lead to the front of his chest or at the back between the scapula. Most of the time I attach at his back. The harness allows him full extension of his legs while putting no stress on his neck (trachea).

Ricky walks well on a loose lead. 80% of the time he prefers to trail behind me by about 3 feet, 20% of the time he wants to take the lead. Sometimes I'm in deep thought on our walkies and then all of a sudden, I come to in a panic and realize the lead is limp and Ricky is gone. But not to worry, Ricky is dutifully following along with me.

I only occasionally put Ricky in a tight heel on our walkies. Walkies are our time to get some exercise, smell the flowers, explore, and poop EDIT: (Ricky, not me!). We have lot's of fun together meeting our neighbors and their dogs. Many of the owners carry small treats and for the dogs it's like "trick and treat" at every encounter. (FUDGE, a 90 pound Irish Setter, drags his owner over to me because he knows I'm the Candy Man).

I do have a collar for Ricky but I don't use it for walkies, too much danger of damaging the trachea. I use it when I take him to the store with me just as a safety device. I require that he ride in a cart when he is inside the store. I NEVER LEAVE THE COLLAR WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS LOOKING AFTER RICKY! I have seen too many dogs being dragged by a collar around their necks! That is not going to happen with Ricky. For example, when I take him to the groomer, I lead him through the front door with his collar on, see if there are any unsociable dogs inside, and then take the collar off immediately. I don't leave it with the staff, I take it with me. Ricky doesn't need a lead inside the building. I take off his collar, tell him, "go get in your crate." and he runs into the prep area in the back room and hops into the crate waiting for him......and then gets a healthy cookie. He loooooves going to the groomer and Ricky is the fav there.

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I think the take home for most Havanese people is that MOST Havanese should still be in Harnesses for walking, but it's really important that the harness be fitted properly!:

https://www.avidogzink.com/to-harnes...eid=55d7076bd1

We don't want to damage our dogs' shoulders but their tracheas and the other structures in their necks are at even greater risk unless the dog is really well trained and absolutely reliable in terms of loose leash walking.
I am glad you posted this because I have been pondering something these last few days. i bought Zumba one of those CollarDirect step in leash harness. Is that considered a non-restrictive harness? She seems fine when she is in it, but when I tell her we are going to go potty, she runs away, or hides her head which was not her regular response with the Puppia harness. I am not sure if it because it is bothering her, or because she likes what she is used to. I also have the 3 in 1 harness, but Zumba is not yet 10 lbs (i think she’s 8.5) so not ready to put it on her yet.

Thank you for your thoughts on this.
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I am glad you posted this because I have been pondering something these last few days. i bought Zumba one of those CollarDirect step in leash harness. Is that considered a non-restrictive harness? She seems fine when she is in it, but when I tell her we are going to go potty, she runs away, or hides her head which was not her regular response with the Puppia harness. I am not sure if it because it is bothering her, or because she likes what she is used to. I also have the 3 in 1 harness, but Zumba is not yet 10 lbs (i think she’s 8.5) so not ready to put it on her yet.

Thank you for your thoughts on this.
I have never used that harness so I can’t really speak to it. But if she was fine in a different harness, and is objecting to this one, I might try to find something else.


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I get why the pulling on leash is tough. The only reason I even prioritized it at all was because I knew from the forum that small puppies can hurt themselves by pulling. At first my husband thought I was being kind of uptight about it and not letting our dog be a dog when he was on a walk. It wasn’t until we took him to a sort of outdoor “doggie festival” and he was darting and pulling every which way in a crowded place with other dogs that we were both on the same page. It took a little longer still because DD was indulgent and let him pull as long as he was being cute about it. It was hardest with DS because he just isn’t very coordinated and the puppy learned very quickly how to outmaneuver him. Actually, he still pulls a lot more with DS. He does walk on a pretty loose leash now, though at a brisk pace. Still, he’s not completely reliable and will occasionally try to dart on us. Defintely wish I started working on it earlier. It was cold and I was cautious about a lot of walks before his shots, but I really could have started practicing indoors.
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I was wondering if anyone has tried a Buddy Belt. I have been using these for years for my two dogs. I tried many harnesses before but I had a lot of escapes from one of my dogs. He is a bad puller if he sees a squirrel or deer. He has never escaped from the Buddy Belt and it seems to avoid the trachea area. However, I am wondering about shoulder pressure. I have used this harness for 5 years and no ill effects I can see. Having a dog escape from a harness scares me as much as hurting their trachea!
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I just came across a choke free harness made by Freedom No Pull Harness. They have a choke free harness and no pull harness. The choke free harness looks good. Wondering if anyone has tried this. Made of leather in USA. Thanks.
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