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Diaherria-What do you do/when do you go to vet?

I'm so upset. My Shadow gets motion sickness. Tried Bonine, tried Dramamine. Didn't work. My vet prescribed Cerenia. Not good. He has developed the runs and vomited both times I tried it.
This time was the worst. I gave it to him Wed. and the runs started right away. Thought he was better Thurs. No, he is going to the vet in the morning(Sat.)He also threw up this afternoon.
I am so scared. He is keeping water down(I think). Haven't fed him tonight and he is begging for food.
Am I jumping the gun?
What do you do when your baby gets sick? When is it vet time? I hate to take him in when he gets so sick in the car even a couple miles.
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I'm so upset. My Shadow gets motion sickness. Tried Bonine, tried Dramamine. Didn't work. My vet prescribed Cerenia. Not good. He has developed the runs and vomited both times I tried it.
This time was the worst. I gave it to him Wed. and the runs started right away. Thought he was better Thurs. No, he is going to the vet in the morning(Sat.)He also threw up this afternoon.
I am so scared. He is keeping water down(I think). Haven't fed him tonight and he is begging for food.
Am I jumping the gun?
What do you do when your baby gets sick? When is it vet time? I hate to take him in when he gets so sick in the car even a couple miles.
I have battled extreme car sickness with my dog which is finally resolved. I can share what I did.

1. Ditch all the medications so you can get to the root cause.
2. Try not to be anxious and stressed because your dog is going to pick this up and it is only going to make it worse. Have faith that you can get your dog over this. Also, do not listen to naysayers that tell you that you should have taken your dog on 100 fun trips when it was 10 weeks old. This will do nothing for you and also just add guilt.
3. If your dog gets anxious just going into the car without it even moving, try to get your dog to love the car. Park the car in the driveway with engine off. Then take him in there and do fun things...feed him in there, give him treats, if you buy a new toy let him find it there. Do this as often as you need to until he is not anxious in there.
4. Once he is okay with engine off, repeat the above with engine on.
5. Once he is okay with engine on, just take short trip like one block. Make sure the dog has a comfortable position in the car and is secured. My dog does best in back seat in a bed with a car harness. Bed has towels around her so she feels secure. I sit back there with her and my husband drives. Not sure if you need to do this or not. If she is in a crate she freaks out because if she gets queasy she wants to get out to vomit. She rarely ever does anymore, but we have super hilly and winding roads and sometimes she gets queezy on those. Straight roads are no problem.
6. Slowly increase length of trips and try to end in fun places. Do not always wind up at vet or groomers.

Other things to consider. Some dogs do better on empty stomach (mine does), some like to be full and some just like a light snack. You will have to figure that out. Windows need to be cracked for fresh air. The more successful trips you have, the quicker he will get over it so go slowly.

Good luck!
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All good advice except that it is what I've done with him for over a year. He wants to go for rides(even when we are not going anywhere). It seems like 4 miles and he starts to look sick then vomits a mile later.
Which is why I tried the Cerenia prescription. The 2 times I tried I he got the runs and still vomits! So no more Cerenia.
Nothing has been helpful. He does not seem anxious in the car. Just the motion seems to bother him.
This time, he ended up with the runs for 3 days following the Cerenia. I was going to take him to the vet, but he would probably get carsick.
I wondered what everyone else does when their dog vomits or gets the runs. Do you take the little one to the vet first day? Second day? Change his diet till belly settles? Give pumpkin?
*Please excuse the spelling as my laptop died and this stupid device I'm using has a mind of it's own(like a Havanese) and I can't seem to correct spelling!
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I wondered what everyone else does when their dog vomits or gets the runs. Do you take the little one to the vet first day? Second day? Change his diet till belly settles? Give pumpkin?
*Please excuse the spelling as my laptop died and this stupid device I'm using has a mind of it's own(like a Havanese) and I can't seem to correct spelling!
As far as occasional vomiting or loose stools, I go by the dogís demeanor. If they seem happy and active, I simply give them a paste made of slippery elm bark powder and keep an eye on them. If the dog is lethargic or showing signs of sickness, I go to the vet. If the dog is showing signs of extreme distress such as going into prayer position, I would get there ASAP. I also try to determine what may have triggered it. For example, ate something on walk, gave flea or tick meds, gave heartworm pill or any other med, changed food, put chemicals on lawn. It is also good especially for vomiting to note how many hours this happens after eating. This is a big clue to root cause and can help the vet.

Google slippery elm for pets. Every pet owner should have it on hand in my opinion. Mountain Rose Herbs is a great source for it. I have never given my dogs pumpkin and never will. However, others can weigh in.
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I would like to add to my previous post that I do not withhold food from the dog if the dog wants it. I know the typical recommendation is to withhold food for 24 hours, however I do not do this if the dog wants food. This may be incorrect but this is what I do and works for me. My dogs rarely have any digestive issues or loose stools. It only happened a few times during the initial transition to raw feeding.
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Thanks! I will have to look into the Slippery Elm.
Why not Pumpkin? I've always heard it is good to give.
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Thanks! I will have to look into the Slippery Elm.
Why not Pumpkin? I've always heard it is good to give.
I and many of the people I know have great luck with slippery elm so hesitant to change. Although many say pumpkin works, I consider it a species inappropriate food and hate to add something to new to their diet during a period where they are already having digestive issues. One more thing...if your dog is having diarrhea for more than a couple days or depending how severe it is, you need to be concerned about dehydration. A trip to the vet may be needed so they can administer subcutaneous fluids to prevent dehydration. Hopefully, he is just having a brief period of loose stools that the dog will recover from but be aware of this. Let us know what happens.
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Just wanted to add...slippery elm is not something to be given long term or on a regular basis. Just occasionally for digestive upset, loose stools or constipation.

Wondering too if you have looked into using a mobile vet if there is one in your area to reduce trips to the vet in the car.
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Fingers and paws are crossed. I think he is over it today.
Since he has only had the Cerenia twice now(six weeks apart) and was sick both times, I knew that that's what caused it. This time, it lasted longer and was worse probably since he didn't have breakfast so empty stomach.
I had an appt. this morning and cancelled it since he seems better. Happy and hungry after not getting his dinner last night. Vet's office says not to feed. Today will be smaller meals of an easy to digest food. I'm staying home today to watch him and make sure he doesn't relapse. I think his pride was hurt after having an accident in the kitchen and soiling his crate during the second night. Both were firsts for him.
I think I feel sicker than he does!
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