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Hi! I'm new to the forum and have some questions about the Havanese. My husband and I have never owned a dog (together) before. We have no children and both of us work 40+ hours a week.

We are looking at adopting a Havanese puppy. I've recently read a few articles that mention if you can't spend a lot of time with a Havanese you could have problems - maybe, separation anxiety resulting in lots of barking. We live in a single family home, so upstairs and downstairs neighbors wouldn't be an issue. But I'm concerned that if neither one of us is home during the day, the barking will become a habit that is difficult to break.

Our plan is to keep her in a crate while we aren't home. I've also been reading that you shouldn't keep a puppy in a crate for a number of hours during the day. I think short-term I could go home during lunch from work to let her out.

Is a Havanese a good dog for us, or should we rethink our breed-choice?

Any assistance provided would be greatly appreciated!

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I am also a newbie (we are waiting for our puppy to be ready to come home), but one of the reasons we chose a Havanese is because they are companion dogs. My understanding is that they want to be with you ALL the time. I'm not sure that this is a great breed to leave home alone for extended periods, but I'm sure the experts here will have some good advice.

Good luck with your decision!
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Hi! I'm new to the forum and have some questions about the Havanese. My husband and I have never owned a dog (together) before. We have no children and both of us work 40+ hours a week.

We are looking at adopting a Havanese puppy. I've recently read a few articles that mention if you can't spend a lot of time with a Havanese you could have problems - maybe, separation anxiety resulting in lots of barking. We live in a single family home, so upstairs and downstairs neighbors wouldn't be an issue. But I'm concerned that if neither one of us is home during the day, the barking will become a habit that is difficult to break.

Our plan is to keep her in a crate while we aren't home. I've also been reading that you shouldn't keep a puppy in a crate for a number of hours during the day. I think short-term I could go home during lunch from work to let her out.

Is a Havanese a good dog for us, or should we rethink our breed-choice?

Any assistance provided would be greatly appreciated!

Heather
You are right about not leaving a puppy in a crate for a number of hours. I think short term is more like two hours. That is when you use a xpen instead with the crate door open. It is still a good idea to come home at lunch and give the pup alot of love and excersize. It is not the ideal situation for a puppy to live that way ( in my opinion we have never left our havanese for more than a few hr and that was when she was over 4mo.
Because we have raised our pets this way when we do leave yes they are sad. I have stood outside and listened I hear some crying but then they settle down. When I return home even after a half hour boy oh boy are they excited to see me.

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I had never heard of an xpen - just Googled it. Pretty nice! I'm thinking that's the way we'll go. I like the openess of it. Thank you so much for the suggestion! We are really excited about the prospect of getting a Havanese and want to do everything we can to make this work.

(Darn work is getting in the way of life! LOL!)
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Oh....I forgot! Suzi, Maddie is ADORABLE!
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Oh....I forgot! Suzi, Maddie is ADORABLE!
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I had never heard of an xpen - just Googled it. Pretty nice! I'm thinking that's the way we'll go. I like the openess of it. Thank you so much for the suggestion! We are really excited about the prospect of getting a Havanese and want to do everything we can to make this work.

(Darn work is getting in the way of life! LOL!)
Even with an ex-pen, leaving a Hav alone all day (or any other dog for that matter, but especially a companion breed) is not fair to the dog. There are certainly families where both people work, and have worked out ways to keep there Hav happy, but you have to plan ahead, and be REALLY ready for a big committment when you ARE home.

Some people come home for lunch, others stagger their work schedule so that the dog is not alone so long. Still others have more than one dog so that they can keep each other company. You can also hire someone to come in once or twice a day to walk and play with your dog, or consider doggy day care. Some people can also arrange to bring their dog to work with them.

Also, consider an adult dog rather than a puppy if you both work full time. It's almost impossible to properly potty train a young puppy if you can't be there to supervise them!

If you are gone all day, you need to be committed to spending a large percentage of your non-work time with your dog... otherwise, why even have one? This means planning evening and week-end activities that include your dog, even when you are tired and would rather just veg.

Barking is really just a symptom of a problem... not the REASON not to leave your dog alone all day. It's just not fair to the dog.


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It's really hard to properly care for a Havanese if you work full time. Even if your work schedule is 8 hours, did u account for travel time to/from work? We made that mistake when we first got Miko. Even when my wife would home every day during lunch for an hour to play with him, he still developed major separation anxiety. Now, he growls and barks when we leave the condo. Things are better when we got Milo from a rescue group as Miko's playdate. They got along great and spent hours playing with each other. At the same time, my wife got a new job with flexible hours so she's able to spend more time with the boys.

So think really hard about your decision and make sure you can devote lots of time to your puppy.

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Havanese as a breed are also nicknamed 'velcro' dogs, they do not do well at home all day alone, many working families that I've seen over the years, end up with a second or third hav to keep them company, Mid-day dog walkers, doggie daycare (yes, its pretty common these days)...

Separation anxiety can certainly happen if they are alone alot, especially a puppy would be pretty scared and probably bark alot.

I've been on this forum a really long time and can tell you that a depressed, anxious, lonely havanese..sn't going to be a cakewalk when you get home (or for your neighbors)

I know it isn't realistic for every home to not be gone for 40+ hours a week, but there are breeds that can handle this much better than the 'companion' breeds, they crave the companionship ..

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First off, welcome to the forum. Secondly, I'd like to commend you for doing the research ahead of time, before getting the dog and ending up in a possibly bad situation.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with the others with regard to not leaving a dog home alone for hours on end. Havs really are Velcro and yearn for human companionship. 40 hours of work translates into an 8-hour day; factor in travel time and this could be 9 or 10 hours depending on the commute. This is definitely too long to leave a havanese, especially a puppy, home alone. I know a couple who have a young Coton and they drop the pup with her mother each day as the mom runs a used book store and can have the dog with her all day. Do you have someone like this with whom you could leave the dog throughout the day? That would be far more ideal.
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