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post #31 of 35 (permalink) Old 08-25-2019, 10:19 AM
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I think that “damage” isn’t really a fair word. Disrupting the cycles of hair growth and cutting the hair blunt is going to make the coat feel different compared to a naturally grown coat, but it’s still going to be soft- it’s not like stubble from shaving if there’s a reason to cut the coat, it’s going to be healthier after cutting. I imagine it must take a very long time for the coat to grow not just in length, but to also return to its natural state with regard to growth cycles. It would be terrible if a groomer didn’t warn on this for someone intending to grow a long coat, but it doesn’t mean it Havanese haircut is going to be a hack job that destroys his coat for life

I wouldn’t know personally because I grow mine as long as I can but he never gets long enough for the coat on his back to start to lay over before I have to cut him again. I do wish there was a way to texturize a Havanese coat while cutting it, the way bulk in human hair can be texturized by point cutting or slithering with the scissors instead of cutting it blunt or with thinning shears. I think it would look more natural. I have done it a bit, but I understand the different lengths, even subtle, can just encourage matting, and I don’t dare experiment too much.
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There is a HUGE difference between double coated, shedding breeds and a Havanese coat. While our breed is supposed to have an udercoat, they do NOT have a harsh outer coat that is shed seasonally. So the article about not cutting “double coated breeds” really do not pertain to ours. While there are very good reasons not to SHAVE any dog for other than medical purposes, cutting a Havanese coat down, then letting them grow back out does not typically damage the coat long-term. It just takes a LONG time (up to 3 years!) for it to reach full length again.

And a Havanese should never have its undercoat stripped as you would a northern breed.
Thank you, Karen, for the clarification about the Havanese double coat.
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It is true, they have beautiful coats, and it is a breed characteristic. However, I am most interested in comfort for my dog, as I did not get one for the coat per se, but rather personality. If he were MORE comfortable in hot and humid weather with a full coat, I would do it, and maintain it. But if it is torturous, and it would be cooler to have it shorter, then for the sake of the dog, I would do that. The problem is he will not tell me!! HE seems to be more active and playful when it is in a shorter puppy cut.
Mia seems happier with her shorter hair, along with the shorter grooming sessions and fewer baths that go along with it. After I trim her, she gets the zoomies like she has been freed of something. She also dries out more quickly after coming in from the wet grass. It is super hot and humid here and the grass is sopping wet morning and evening.
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Mia seems happier with her shorter hair, along with the shorter grooming sessions and fewer baths that go along with it. After I trim her, she gets the zoomies like she has been freed of something. She also dries out more quickly after coming in from the wet grass. It is super hot and humid here and the grass is sopping wet morning and evening.
Scout had a beautiful long coat. I never thought of him getting a haircut. It was terribly upsetting when it had to be cut for his leg surgeries. Then there was my wrist surgery. Between the two of us it had to go. Anyway...I really like the short coat and he does too! He loves to run and play with Truffles now. The haircut is definitely more work for the groomer. Long coat memories. fullsizeoutput_47a.jpg

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Good point, as so many aspects of dog care, we have to look to our actual dog. I do think he is in the latter category, he seems to love having shorter hair. For sure we are not interested in showing, and we leave the coat longer for the Chicago winter, but in general we keep him shorter. Never a buzz cut, have not needed to get down to the skin.
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