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Camping Trip Cut Short By Trip To Vet

Oh my, we were at the beginning of a 10 day camping trip when Willow started peeing weird. About 3 days in, after her initial pee, she would again resume the squat position and hold it forever. She did that repeatedly. It was completely different than just marking. Then that night she got us up in the middle to go out to pee. She never gets us up at night. During the day she seemed to feel fine and ate well. She was still holding the pee squat forever and repeatedly. Then she started whimpering a couple of times when she peed plus I saw a drop or two of blood occasionally. I started suspecting a UTI or maybe even something like a kidney stone. So the next day, even though she slept through the night and seemed feel ok, we decided to pack up the RV and head for home. Got her in to see the vet the following morning. They took a urine sample and sent us home with antibiotics and some anti inflammatory medicine. She actually seemed perfectly normal that afternoon and has seemed normal ever since. Since the sample was drawn on Saturday we didn't hear the results until Monday. The results were normal! She seems fine now and the vet didn't know what she was suffering from. She said if it happens again, which it may not, they can do some x-rays. She said dogs usually don't get kidney stones but can get bladder stones. I didn't ask if bladder stones are something that get passed or not.

I keep wondering if we could have ridden out the issue and not have come home but I know we did the right thing. We would have been worried the whole time too. Oh well! We love our Havie!



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Sorry about the camping trip!(I hate camping though!)
My RIP Bichon Frise started off like this when he was about 3. He had crystals in his urine and I think a UTI. Took the antibiotics, put him on Royal Canin Urinary SO. Rechecked after a couple weeks. Then monthly. He has fine, vet said to keep him on the food, no treats forever. Bichon Frise are very prone to urinary stones, esp. the male dogs. And Havanese are pretty close to Bichons.
Romeo developed Pancreatitis at age 10. Vet said the high fat Urinary food could be to blame. Put him on another food. In 3 months, he had about 10 large bladder stones and had to have surgery.
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Make sure she drinks lots of water to keep her system flushed out. Romeo never was a good water drinker esp. if he was a little stressed. When it first started, we were on vacation too.
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Jackie, so sorry to hear about Willow's incident. Of course you did the right thing. Any instance of blood in the urine would have us dashing off to the Vet.

Best wishes to Willow and prayers that this was an isolated incident.

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Willow seems fine. However, just a bit ago I found a suspicious puddle of water on the floor of my little office and when I wiped it up the wet spot on the paper towel was yellow. Willow has never peed in the house that I know of. My prior dog was plagued with UTI's towards the end and frequently had accidents inside because of the UTI's. So I'm going to keep a close watch on Willow. She just doesn't act like she has a UTI though. Plus she is finishing up the round of antibiotics the vet put her on so I wouldn't think she has one. Hopefully she just had to go really bad and just couldn't get my attention and is a one time occurance.



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Panda got a UTI when we were camping in London Ontario, FAR from home, when I was speaking at a college there. Timing was bad. Going home was not an option. Finding an emergency vet who would see her on a Sat. morning was not easy either! But we called around, found a place that couldn't fit us in but was REALLY nice about calling OTHER places and found a place for us to take her.

We got her there about an hour before I had to speak. We explained our predicament. (including being in a different country!!!) The vet was really nice, confirmed the UTI and gave us antibiotics for her, as well as something to calm down the discomfort. (I think a doggy version of Uritstat, because it colored her urine like that) The vet mentioned that Panda was very hairy on her "lady bits" and that that sometimes led to UTI's because it held bacteria. We've been careful to keep that area closely clipped and have had no further problems. We gave her the first dose of both right there in the vet's office. Dave dropped my off at the college with my laptop, and went back to the campground.

I think he has a petty hard day with her... They basically stayed outside under the awning, so that she could pee as often as she felt like she needed to. (she really was just producing a dribble each time) By the time they picked me up in the evening, she was feeling MUCH better. We kept her on the meds, continued our trip, had a follow-up with our own vet a week later at home (the vet up there had faxed the notes to our vet) and never had another problem.

It was great to find such great vet help on the road. We've had worse trouble getting urgent human medical care on camping trips! LOL!


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Karen, so glad your camping trip worked out ok! We have a Class C and no towed vehicle so we just decided to call it quits since we had to pack up the rig anyway to go anywhere. We were only about 3 hours from home. We'll be going back to the state park later on early fall.

Willow's groomer really keeps her shaved quite close. In fact I even asked to vet if it was too close. She said it should be ok although they can get nicked once in awhile. That wasn't Willow's problem though because it had been several weeks since the groomer. I just wish I knew for sure what her problem was. She would have a fairly normal amount of pee when we took her out first thing but after that she kept trying to pee and would remain in the squat forever. I'm not even sure she was producing anything on these tries.



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My Bichon also had bladder stones and had to have surgery and go on a special diet. Bloody urine was the major red flag we had. Small stones can pass but can be irritating which I think may be the cause of the blood. The large stones stay in the bladder but can block the flow of urine. I hope this was just a one time thing with Willow and nothing to worry about.



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.I hope everything turns out ok for Willow. I'd probably call the vet tomorrow and tell them what's going on, but I always worry about my dogs.
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Perry had 3 ! accidents in the house on Saturday within a very short period of time - given that he hasn't had an accident in our house here in Kampala in over 2 years this is very unusual and I suspect the beginning of a UTI... No other symptoms so out comes the yogurt added to his meals so will see if that clears it up. No accidents after that, but then again the minute he approached the door on Sunday I let him out (and he peed) - which is also unusual as he doesn't usually go out that often.
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I’m sorry she had a hard time and glad she seems better!

I know sometimes with humans sometimes “urine dumping” and other symptoms can be related to other illnesses. Is this true in dogs? If you’re still concerned, are there other avenues to explore?
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