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Hi everyone, its been a while. As I am thinking of the seasonal weather here in Florida, it brings memories of the dash we had to do to get out of our area almost 2 years ago this coming
September when "Irma" arrived! Evacuation is no fun. But, we managed and all turned out well. My Hav Reilly has been with us for 6 years now, we rescued him at age 2 and it is the
very best thing we have ever done. How we lived without him I cannot now imagine. Well, it is coming around to that Hurricane season again when we get things in order and ready
"just in case" and I began thinking of how Reilly will have to do potty inside. He never has. Last time when we evacuated, we were able to travel out of the area and he was able to
continue on his usual schedule outside. So, if no evacuation is called for, we will be stuck inside (or plan a vaca to run to in advance. But seriously, as I don't post much, but am on here all the time reading and supporting the posts etc. I thought I would search for this inside potty business. Well, I found it posted: Ugodo, BLyss, Zumba, piddle place, The Rascal Dogs...
Just wonderful information. Now, question: Reilly is a large Have. Long and 20#..He is not overweight, but a big boy the vet said. Very healthy, very loving and just a natural lover..So,
before I go out and purchase one of these items, can they accommodate his size? I can look at them and see the sizes of them, but would rather hear from anyone who has used them. I
hope we may not have to, but I,m thinking it may not be a bad idea for him to get the idea its ok in a special place for him when needed. One never knows...So any response will be
greatly appreciated, especially if I find which one would be the better one to purchase for him. Then I can get at the business of training him to use it. Thank you one and all for the wonderful
topics and posts which have been so helpful and informative as this old gal taught the new 2 year old his life lessons.....He is just the best loving dog we have ever had.....my baby boy!
Hope I hear from someone about this indoor potty business. Terri (Reillys Mom)
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I can't help you with indoor potty training but I do have an indoor set up in my basement that I use during the harshest winter weather we may get where I live. It could be a below zero wind chill, high snow, or blizzard conditions. I use an expen placed over a tarp. I cover the tarp with newspapers. I put my girl in the pen and she will pee or poop if needed. She is strictly outdoor potty trained but did not have any trouble going inside when I needed her to.



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Generally it seems like if you haven't been doing indoor pottying consistently all along then dogs generally won't start it as an older dog. I know that Perry will NOT use a potty pad when we're traveling - he'll hold it 20+ hours instead of using the pad that I put down for him.

If it were me in this situation, given that Perry won't use a pad, I would probably get a box and put some sod/ turf in it for the duration. At least that would be "real" grass and you might have a chance of getting him to use that.
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Our breeder started our puppy on indoor and outdoor potty training and I did continue it through the first winter. We didnít practice enough in the summer and by the next winter he forgot the skill and wouldnít use it in his own. However, in a pinch I can put him on it and tell him to ďgo pottyĒ and he will, and Iím thankful for that. Iíve heard itís difficult to teach a dog to seek out an indoor potty and use it independently if he isnít a puppy. Maybe if you work on teaching him to go on command right away and in different places it would help get him to go indoors in an emergency or out of the ordinary situation.

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Our breeder started our puppy on indoor and outdoor potty training and I did continue it through the first winter. We didnít practice enough in the summer and by the next winter he forgot the skill and wouldnít use it in his own. However, in a pinch I can put him on it and tell him to ďgo pottyĒ and he will, and Iím thankful for that. Iíve heard itís difficult to teach a dog to seek out an indoor potty and use it independently if he isnít a puppy. Maybe if you work on teaching him to go on command right away and in different places it would help get him to go indoors in an emergency or out of the ordinary situation.

Good luck!
Perry mostly will potty on command (to the point that we joke that we need to record my voice saying 'go potty' when Grammy is babysitting because he'll wander and wander and forget to go when she has him but when I take him out he goes very quickly), but he refuses to go on the potty pad even with the command. It's worth a try though.
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Hopefully someone else with a bigger Havanese will jump in and tell you. Karenís Kodi is a big boy. And she is one that recommended the Ugodog. That is a big litter box, though when I tried to order more of those, I could find them nowhere, and the company did not respond to my question of when they would be available. When I got Blyss, I was very concerned about the size, even though Zumba is barely 8 lbs. It was so much smaller than the Ugodog. But she did finally take to it. My recommendation would be is to write to the company and ask them your question.
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You might try Doggie Lawn or Fresh Patch which are real grass. Loki will use the pee pad when we are out but not when we are home. I am going to try the real grass when we next go to our beach condo. It would be nice not to have to get dressed at 6 am to take him out.
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Generally it seems like if you haven't been doing indoor pottying consistently all along then dogs generally won't start it as an older dog. I know that Perry will NOT use a potty pad when we're traveling - he'll hold it 20+ hours instead of using the pad that I put down for him.

If it were me in this situation, given that Perry won't use a pad, I would probably get a box and put some sod/ turf in it for the duration. At least that would be "real" grass and you might have a chance of getting him to use that.
I agree. I have not yet heard of anyone who has been successful in training an older dog to use an indoor potty. It seems to be against their religion if it is not taught early.

The best boxes for larger Havanese were the "Big Squirt" version of the Rascal Dog, but as far as I know, they are not currently available in the US. Kodi (who is not as large as your guy, but is on the larger end) can now position himself on a UgoDog properly to pee, but he is very experienced with it. He has to stand in one specific position for it to work for him. I'm not sure he could poop on it.

As Melissa said here, if I had to set up something on short notice, I think I'd get a BIG piece of sod. But I'd probably get a bigger piece that would fit in any standard litter box. Then I'd use Molly's mom's idea, and put down a tarp inside and expen and put the sod on top of that. That will give him plenty of space to make his "potty circle" and also smell more familiar. If you can catch some of his pee and put that on the sod, it will also encourage him to use it.

Good luck! This isn't an easy thing to do!
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I've been in FL now for 25 hurricane seasons and I just time potty breaks around the weather. But I am considering purchasing a few pieces of sod and laying it in my backyard in a currently mulched garden. If a hurricane is coming, I would put a cheap tarp down in the garage and bring the sod in. Put it on the tarp and that would be Shadow's toilet area. Then it would be relocated back to the yard for the next storm.
Those little grass potty systems look pretty small to me.
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Hopefully someone else with a bigger Havanese will jump in and tell you. Karenís Kodi is a big boy. And she is one that recommended the Ugodog. That is a big litter box, though when I tried to order more of those, I could find them nowhere, and the company did not respond to my question of when they would be available. When I got Blyss, I was very concerned about the size, even though Zumba is barely 8 lbs. It was so much smaller than the Ugodog. But she did finally take to it. My recommendation would be is to write to the company and ask them your question.
It is Rascal Dog that was, IMO, the best, and is no longer available in the US (though it is in the UK the last time I looked into it. But I just went to the UgoDog site and saw that they, too list both sizes as "out of stock" Too bad. It seems harder and harder to find a box that is large enough, works with litter and also has a grate.

But for the OP. this one might work: https://smile.amazon.com/Synturfmats...ZMQ1MM5HB7MJ3B

I would not use the fake grass, however, for two reasons. First, he probably won't accept it anyway. Second, if he does, there is NO WAY to get the stink out of it. Believe me, I tried the fake grass at one point tried MANY ways of cleaning it, and there was no way I could live with the smell!
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