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Ours never got out of any of the vest type harnesses we bought, like what Jackie is describing. The harness he could escape from was one that is easier for my kids to put on and it only has one snap across the back. I also like that the vest harnesses don’t shift up since they wrap more around the body, but I don’t know how much they’d mat 3”. We used them when he was about 3” long but it was before his adult coat came in and I always brushed around his chest and armpits for a second after a walk in the harness. And if we were going on a long walk we’d use a different harness anyway that’s harder to put on but restricts the least amount of movement. Until the slip lead I tended to have different harnesses I preferred for different situations.
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So I've been using his harness/leash and a slip lead at the same time. Honestly, his walking is better than ever! But I have to hold the two leashes so it is inconvenient and a little awkward.
I think I need to design a special Havanese harness
with a built-in collar for the uncontrollable wild ones! I need to take him to the store with me to try them on since fit is important.
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We have been using the PetSafe Easy Walk harness. Skye was just so excited about meeting new people and dogs that I had to do something to contain his exuberance. It worked like a charm to get him walking by my side and he has never slipped out of it. Once adjusted there is just one buckle to attach or remove, no velcro to snag his hair.

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I am weaning him off of the harness and back to a flat collar to prepare for his CGC test. It is going nicely. I don't know if it's because the harness helped me teach him that he always belongs by my side, or if he has just matured enough to be able to maintain some semblance of self control.


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I am weaning him off of the harness and back to a flat collar to prepare for his CGC test. It is going nicely. I don't know if it's because the harness helped me teach him that he always belongs by my side, or if he has just matured enough to be able to maintain some semblance of self control.


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Just so the people new to small breed dogs know, it's important if you are walking with a leash attached to a collar around the neck that the dog does NOT pull or suddenly lunge at something. They can seriously damage their neck or crush their trachea if they pull too hard. Never having a small breed dog before, I did not know this. Fortunately my neighbor had a small breed and also had worked for a vet and she told me and loaned me a harness until I could get my own.



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We have been using the PetSafe Easy Walk harness. Skye was just so excited about meeting new people and dogs that I had to do something to contain his exuberance. It worked like a charm to get him walking by my side and he has never slipped out of it. Once adjusted there is just one buckle to attach or remove, no velcro to snag his hair.

https://store.petsafe.net/easy-walk-harness


I am weaning him off of the harness and back to a flat collar to prepare for his CGC test. It is going nicely. I don't know if it's because the harness helped me teach him that he always belongs by my side, or if he has just matured enough to be able to maintain some semblance of self control.


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Are they requiring you to use a flat collar for CGC? I don't think you can use the easy walk harness that clips in the front but the rules do allow for body harnesses. Loki took and passed his test in a regular harness that the leash clips on the back.



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I don't know if it's because the harness helped me teach him that he always belongs by my side, or if he has just matured enough to be able to maintain some semblance of self control.


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Well, give yourself some credit here The harness isn’t the key to teaching him to walk next to you, it’s a tool that can help, but you’re doing the work with your puppy!

We also used the easy walk harness until it was outgrown and I meant to get the Petsafe 3 in 1 recommended on the forum to replace it but I ordered the wrong one. whenever that happens the wrong item ends up sitting in a corner until the exchange window has passed!

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Just so the people new to small breed dogs know, it's important if you are walking with a leash attached to a collar around the neck that the dog does NOT pull or suddenly lunge at something. They can seriously damage their neck or crush their trachea if they pull too hard.
I agree, I think it would have been really dangerous for us to use a slip lead on a new puppy, especially because of our lack of experience. Even with guidance, the first time I went to use it on my own I couldn’t remember how to position it. When I looked it up on YouTube the first video showed someone positioning it exactly how the trainer told me not to. Since he was really little he has practiced walking nicely on a leash but there were still times when he would randomly start pulling. Switching to a slip lead did help us, but we didn’t do it until we had already been working on it for a year and a half and at the suggestion of a trainer.
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Are they requiring you to use a flat collar for CGC? I don't think you can use the easy walk harness that clips in the front but the rules do allow for body harnesses. Loki took and passed his test in a regular harness that the leash clips on the back.
We will eventually have to work with the flat collar as we progress to Rally, etc. So I thought we should see how it goes. I have been doing this on our walks:

Start off with the easy walk and walk 6 blocks over to the park.
Take off his leash at the park and attach a 20' long line and do recalls, stays, waits, fetch, and just generally run and play. By the end of this he has burned off some of his P&V.
Leave the easy walk on, but attach his leash to his collar and walk home.

He has been doing really well on this routine. So yesterday at our CGC Prep Class I decided to push the envelope a little bit and removed the easy walk entirely after we had been there long enough for him to get used to the other dogs and people. Our loose leash walking went just OK. Our turns were not as tight and crisp as I would have liked, but I thought "OK. We can build on this." Then he spotted a clump of dog fur that he thought was most the most interesting thing in the world. Totally ignored me talking to him, ignored my sqeeking a toy in my pocket. He wanted that clump of fur! He wasn't actually pulling or tugging on the leash. Just walked to the end and was leaning into it.

So like so much of our training... two steps forward and one step back. I'm going to continue to work with leaving the harness on, but attaching the leash to his collar. I may try the 3 in 1 just to get him through the CGC.

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