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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 12:19 PM Thread Starter
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Escape from harness during walk!

Last night, Shadow escaped from his harness last night as we crossed the street. I have no idea how this happened. He wanted to see a dog that our neighbor appears to be boarding and managed to squeeze out of his harness. I was there with the leash and harness in my hand while he ran to the other dog, about 20 feet away. I told him to come. No, not happening. He really wanted to meet this new dog, a cocker spaniel and was not taking no for an answer.
He was loose for maybe a minute while I snatched him away. My neighbor(who is a vet), says you need to train him to listen. I apologized for our poor behavior, reharnessed Shadow and we went on with our walk. This was the first time Shadow has ever gotten away from me and I am still upset. He needs better training and maybe a different escapeproof harness!
One week ago, I spotted an unknown dog loose in the neighborhood. I tried calling it and it did not come. It ran further away to the main road where I lost sight. Immediately, put it on Nextdoor with no response. It was the vet's dog! What an ass!
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What kind of harness were you using...lots of threads about pros and cons of various harnesses that work best with Havanese. Some are more escape proof than others. I have about four or five that I cycled thru before finding one that I am most comfortable with, but always keeping my eye out for new ones. We are using the gooby cross X, have two sizes one for right after haircut and a size up for right before grooming when she is really bushy. I donít think she can escape...but who ever knows for sure until it happens.

As to your neighbors ďadviceĒ, yeah, sure...donít we all wish they would obey perfectly in unusual, attractive or scary situations!
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Not sure what brand it is but I tried 4 or 5 til this one worked It's adjustable. I wish I had seen him get out of it but I was looking for cars and took my eyes off him for a couple seconds. He was very fast to get out of it. I think he had been plotting this for the last year and a half!
Tonight I used the harness and leash like usual PLUS a slip lead so if temptation came, if one failed the other one would snag the Hav! I think that now that he knows he can get out, he'll try it again! Til I come up with a better idea.
As for my vet neighbor, he is a terrible vet. I went to him for a year with my last dog. Shadow's been with me for 1.5 years and has now escaped once for 30 seconds. He has been sitting this dog for just over a week and it has escaped at least once for almost an hour! I didn't bother to tell him that I knew about that. He was acting so smug!
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I never had trouble with ours trying to escape the harness until one of my kids missed a leg hole in the harness. During the walk it must have been rubbing or tangled or something because he kept stopping and eventually he got out of it. After that, even when it was on properly, he realized he could do the little head duck thing and get it off. He did the same thing as Shadow for a while, though - he didnít try to get out of it unless he was in an extremely enticing situation, so I wasnít too worried. Then my kids came running inside one afternoon, both hysterical, because he was running at top speed in circles around the park in front of our house. They were terrified because we live near the entrance to our neighborhood, which is off a busy road, and they were afraid he would run into the street. After a few minutes of standing helplessly while he ignored cheese and dashed about, he just ran proudly up to us and invited us for more play! After that we bought a new harness, swore weíd start practicing recall every day, and started taking him to off leash areas more often so he can run around.

The new harness only lasted a few weeks. Soon after a trainer in our neighborhood suggested some of what I had perceived as hyper excitement might be stress on a leash. She suggested a slip lead, which I was hesitant about because he still occasionally pulls. She was right, though, it worked immediately. He stays close to me, seems more calm, and doesnít pull. And it doesnít seem docile or anything, itís like he feels more secure.

It does seem like every time something unusual happens that makes us seem like terrible dog owners thereís an audience! When he was running around in front of our house there were families at the park. They thought it was cute except for one little girl who screamed. Apparently sheís afraid of dogs, so even though he was playing, it was super embarrassing!
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That is interesting. I've never used a harness on any of my other dogs, til Shadow. I use a slip lead when he is going out for a quick bathroom outing but for real walks, the harness. He is a good walker until he sees someone he really wants to see(a dog or person), then he looses his mind. Pulling, walking on his hind legs. When I use a slip lead, he starts gagging and I am afraid he will get hurt.
When I'm putting the harness on him and miss a leg, I notice right away that he's hesitant about walking then I check and fix it. It must rub.
Shadow does the top speed running in our fenced yard. He used to do it more when he was younger. But your trainer's observation could be right for Shadow too since he will try to run in circles on the leash when he is out for a walk and meets up with little kids in a group. The kids are all excited. I thought he was excited and happy. Maybe it is stressful for him. Good point!!! Thanks for sharing that!
He does need training, I think. Finding the right trainer will be an adventure!
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Willow had a harness once that she could get out of. Scary! Especially if the dog does not have a good recall. I finally got a harness by Curl and she has never slipped out of this one. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I actually have two different sizes. I had to get one slightly larger for winter when she wears a sweater or coat. She's in a short cut so I don't have to worry about the harness matting.



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That one is interesting. But Shadow's hair is kept at 3 inches on his little body and it kept getting caught in Velcro. Do you have that problem?
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He is a good walker until he sees someone he really wants to see(a dog or person), then he looses his mind. Pulling, walking on his hind legs. When I use a slip lead, he starts gagging and I am afraid he will get hurt.
Thatís exactly what mine does and exactly what I was worried about! Thankfully itĎs gone well, but what works for one doesnít always work for another

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The kids are all excited. I thought he was excited and happy.
Iím sure he is! I think the reason I didnít catch it is because he IS excited, but stressed, too. Kids love to play, but sometimes they are unintentionally scary. The trainer said she thinks it helps because he is more aware that a ďprotectorĒ is right there, because he can feel the lead differently. She explained it much better though. He has never let the lead get tight since we introduced it.

I didnít notice he was stressed until someone pointed it out to me and then it was really obvious. I hate that feeling! Becoming a dog person, itís like youíre always learning more and understanding things better and I love that itís a continued growth! But that feeling of being completely oblivious to something is different, itís so uncomfortable, ugh.
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I use this EzyDog harness. It is really simple. Goes over the head and the buckle clips under the belly. The chest strap is adjustable. Unless the belly strap comes undone, I don't think there is anyway for him to get out of it.





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That one is interesting. But Shadow's hair is kept at 3 inches on his little body and it kept getting caught in Velcro. Do you have that problem?
No, I've never had that problem. I used it when her hair was about 3 inches too and it still wasn't a problem. It only has the velcro at the top and then the snap crosses over the velcro so that makes a double, secure closure. Plus the two loops for the leash attachment also provide a safety closure. It's easy to put on. Just step through the two leg openings and then just secure to top velcro and snaps across the shoulders.



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