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dog trainer refuses to do indoor potty training

A dog trainer I recently contacted told me that he will not do indoor potty training because he does not believe it works successfully. By this He means that it is not reliable and the dog only uses an indoor potty 60% of the time. Can someone comment on their experiences with this potty method? Thank you.
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A dog trainer I recently contacted told me that he will not do indoor potty training because he does not believe it works successfully. By this He means that it is not reliable and the dog only uses an indoor potty 60% of the time. Can someone comment on their experiences with this potty method? Thank you.
That dog trainer doesn’t know what he is talking about. My dogs are 10, 4 and 3 and from two different breeders. All are 100% reliably house trained, all preferentially potty outdoors and all will use an indoor potty (litter box with a grate) if they need to. They have all been doing that since they were small puppies and were all started on that system by their breeders.


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That dog trainer doesn’t know what he is talking about. My dogs are 10, 4 and 3 and from two different breeders. All are 100% reliably house trained, all preferentially potty outdoors and all will use an indoor potty (litter box with a grate) if they need to. They have all been doing that since they were small puppies and were all started on that system by their breeders.
My 3 year old is the same except he refuses to use his indoor option if we are home. He would rather go out in a monsoon or blizzard than use the UGoDog. We just brought puppy home on Sunday. He is reliable using the UGoDog in the ex pen. I want him to use it when we are home ... like during the night so I don’t have to come downstairs in the middle of the night. On the rare occasion Loki needs to go during the night, he won’t just get off the bed and use the UGoDog, I have to take him out. I want to change that with the puppy. Suggestions?

Obviously, the trainer has never trained a Havi to use an indoor option. Lots of people here do it very successfully.


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thanks for your replies.

Can I ask how large your ex-pen is and how large the UGoDog is? What size pads do you use for your adult dogs and puppies??
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thanks for your replies.

Can I ask how large your ex-pen is and how large the UGoDog is? What size pads do you use for your adult dogs and puppies??
Our set-up has changed between Kodi and the girls but I’ll put pictures below of the set-ups we had for each. Keep in mind that these set-ups were for puppies who already were well trained to litter boxes. If you were introducing it to a puppy who had no clue, you would need a smaller space. I will include a third photo that shows that. In that case, it was following a UTI, when Panda had convinced herself that the potty was the cause of her discomfort, and we had to convince her otherwise. It only took 2 or 3 days of this level of confinement, because she already understood the game.

With a puppy who DOESN’T understand an indoor potty, you would not expand the space until they were 100% successful with this amount of space for at least a week or so, then SLOWLY increase the space. Any time spent outside that space would ONLY be when you knew the puppy was “empty”, AND with _100% “eyes-on”_ supervision. If you have to take your eyes and attention off the puppy for a split second, the puppy has to go back into the expen.

This may sound very regimented, but the more closely you supervise and confine in the beginning, and the closer to “errorless” you can make it (there will ALWAYS be the occasional accident, say nothing, just clean it up and move on, trying not to let it happen again) the faster your puppy will be reliably potty trained.

Put your focus on the litter box training. ALL puppies learn to go outside eventually on their own when you take them outside. You just have to give them a "Good dog!" And a happy face when they do it, and before long, they will be doing it regularly. What you are really teaching them is that there are “OK” places to go, (their box or outdoors) and everyplace else is “not OK”. You VERY SLOWLY expand the “not OK” territory as they show they can handle it. Any mistakes show that you’ve allowed too much freedom too soon, and you need to tighten things up again.

So, for some reason, it’s only letting me upload one photo at a time. Here was Kodi’s “bedroom”.


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Here was Kodi’s bedroom...
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Here was the one the girls both used. (The difference being, neither of them slept in here, so they didn’t need a crate)...
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And this was Panda’s “Puppy Jail”, when she needed retraining after her UTI...
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Thank you for your response.

Question: If I use a playpen that is just big enough for a bed and wee wee pad, then how can the puppy move around and play in that playpen? It seems that the puppy will sit in its own poop or pee!! Doesn't the pen have to be big enough for the puppy to move around a bit too??
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Also, I wanted to add that I am using a nylon, round, pop up pen, rather than a wired pen. I hope that is OK too.
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