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Stress?

I have a question regarding stress. I know our Obi has some degree of separation anxiety, it was very apparent from the first day we got him. We've done our best to try and help him deal with this issue and there has been a marked improvement I have to say. It was a slow go from the start, but we were finally able to work him up to staying home while we went to work. For about six months I was even coming home at lunch to take him out for a pee break and run around the block in the hopes of curbing his lonliness.

At home he's been very good and accident-free for a very long time and I am proud to say that he's never pooed in the house even when he was a puppy... but, it seems like everytime we leave him at grandma and grandpa's house for a 24 hour period or more he leaves them a poo surprise somewhere. It's an odd thing and very puzzling for my wife and I. They've even tried to set him up for success during our absence, taking him outside ever few hours to allow him to #1 and #2. On the day they left him alone to run to the store for an errand (they were only gone for one hour) he had even pooed three times that day, which is more than the norm for him, but to their shock they found that he had left a little surprise for them.

I believe it must be stress, any thoughts?

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My Beamer never has accidents in my home either, and he is only 4.5 months old. But if we take him to osmeones house for the day while we are at work, he will most likely poo or pee in the house even though he gets taken out often. Maybe they are just confused and to compfortable with the normal routine of your home? My wife and I both work fulltime and leave Beamer home for the day.. he always has someone stop in to feed and play with him for an hour or 2 a day.. Seems happy... but we are getting him a little hav brother in a couple weeks!

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Maybe they should put him into a kennel and not let him run around the house. Dogs don't have human feeling like holding a grudge. Stress might have something to do with it, but if you really want to set him up to suceed start from scratch at the gradparents house so he learns good potty skills there as well.
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Just wanted to say Malcolm is absolutely adorable. I have a soon to be six month old boy myself. Also a 5 1/2 year old and a 4 year old. I don't have a dog yet though but we plan to get one as soon as we can. Maybe some time next year. I do agree that it is probably Obi's separation anxiety.
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It could be separation anxiety, or just being in a different place and the routine was different. Maybe she did signal them and they just didn't realize it. How does he let you know he needs to go out? Do you always go out the same times of day?

Gucci just gives me this "look". She doesn't bark, when she needs to go #2 she gets a tad frantic and occasional will whimper, but more often with #1 she'll tilt her head and just stare at me.

I think my dog holds grudges. She was stung by a wasp and my husband took the wasp off her lip and she wouldn't go near him for DAYS. It took alot of treating and a few weeks for her to forget about it, because even though he did nothing to hurt her, she associated him with the pain/sting. But we were really surprised that she was mad at him for as long as she was, but thankfully she is back to lovin' her daddy!

I haven't been away from her for 24 hours or more, so I don't know yet how she'll respond.

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You mention that you know he has some separation anxiety. Then you can bet that stress is a very likely cause. So is change in schedule or location, and missed signals.

Put all of those together and you're bound to have an accident or two in an anxious dog.

Do you visit grandma and grandpa without leaving him there?

If not, then he knows that when he goes there he's going to be left behind. This is another stress trigger. Start visiting them with him and staying with him for the visit. Make the visits fun, frequent, and allow him to associate their home with safety and comfort. Acclimate him to their home in baby steps.

When he learns that their home is an extension of his own, and that you can be trusted to come back, then he stands a better chance of avoiding inappropriate potty behavior.

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Stress?

He visits grandma and grandpa at least once a week, and generally we go there for visits on a pretty normal basis. I believe his last overnight visit was some time ago before our son was born. As for signals or signs, we had him bell trained, but with my wife being home on maternity leave he's somewhat stopped ringing the bells (I think it's because he gets to go outside every few hours and doesn't feel the urgency). I think the crate is probably the way to go; however, we may have to deal with barking issues then too. Thanks for your input and comments. Sometimes I'm not sure who is more difficult to deal with our human boy or havanese boy?

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You mention that you know he has some separation anxiety. Then you can bet that stress is a very likely cause. So is change in schedule or location, and missed signals.

Put all of those together and you're bound to have an accident or two in an anxious dog.

Do you visit grandma and grandpa without leaving him there?

If not, then he knows that when he goes there he's going to be left behind. This is another stress trigger. Start visiting them with him and staying with him for the visit. Make the visits fun, frequent, and allow him to associate their home with safety and comfort. Acclimate him to their home in baby steps.

When he learns that their home is an extension of his own, and that you can be trusted to come back, then he stands a better chance of avoiding inappropriate potty behavior.

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I am no doggie psychologist but this does not seem unusual to me . My dog Asta would leave a present here and there when he went to visit his Auntie Donna - it is not for lack of her taking him outside either . Her dog tulip would do the same at my house even though she is perfect at home .
So I attribute it to poss stress confusion ? why am I here and not at home where I belong or are they marking their new territory .
Is it time for the doggie psychic ???
I took Cosmo to my son's and he pooped three times in different places . Needless to say we have not been invited back even though I watched him like a hawk - he was so fast ..
Cosmo does not go out visiting for that reason - he is not trustworthy . It is not because he does know the drill he just choses to not know the drill.. I rather be noticed and people make a fuss ..
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Radar's got this weird thing going right now where he'll get in the box but leave one leg outside of it. Then he'll begin to pee and you can see him lift his leg and then he'll get out but forget he's got more to let out so he goes on the floor sometimes. It's not a commom thing for him to do. Sometimes he gets right in the box and other times not. I was thinking of placing a pee pad below the little box but I don't want him getting confused. I just want it there for "Spillage".

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