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I'd like to get my first Havanese next Spring. Of course my desire is for a healthy well socialized pup but I admit my heart melts for the lighter colored (brown, tans, golds) Havs-those with eyes that contrast with facial fur. I'm wondering however if I shouldn't even consider colorations in my choice since apparently these dogs can change greatly in time in regards to their color. One of the breeders I like just had 6 puppy litter of black and white puppies-my son may get one and we always thought it'd be so nice to adopt littermates. Is it possible a black and white face will turn completely black, or unlikely?

Did anyone wind up with a dog that wasn't their preference in terms of color but wound up with zero regrets?
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I know nothing about changing colors so will defer that to the experts.

However, I would do some serious soul searching to determine if you think that the color of your dog is going to influence how you feel about it. I had a friend who married a guy with a pug. She eventually gave the pug to her son because she felt it was ugly and could not bear looking at it!!!! YIKES! This is an extreme example, however we all have certain preferences and perhaps do not have complete control over them. For example, gray walls are in style...I have tried to like them but I just don’t and nothing is going to change that. I personally feel the dark faced Havanese are just as cute but they just do not come across as well in pictures. There are plenty of other colored Havanese out there. If in doubt, I would wait.
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I'd like to get my first Havanese next Spring. Of course my desire is for a healthy well socialized pup but I admit my heart melts for the lighter colored (brown, tans, golds) Havs-those with eyes that contrast with facial fur. I'm wondering however if I shouldn't even consider colorations in my choice since apparently these dogs can change greatly in time in regards to their color. One of the breeders I like just had 6 puppy litter of black and white puppies-my son may get one and we always thought it'd be so nice to adopt littermates. Is it possible a black and white face will turn completely black, or unlikely?

Did anyone wind up with a dog that wasn't their preference in terms of color but wound up with zero regrets?
No, a black and white face will never turn completely black. That never does happen, so you don't have to worry about that! LOL! They USUALLY lighten, if they are going to change color!

And yes, After Kodi, I really WAS hoping for either a sable or a red for each of my others. You can see how that worked out for me! LOL! And I don't regret it in the least!


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I know nothing about changing colors so will defer that to the experts.

However, I would do some serious soul searching to determine if you think that the color of your dog is going to influence how you feel about it. I had a friend who married a guy with a pug. She eventually gave the pug to her son because she felt it was ugly and could not bear looking at it!!!! YIKES! This is an extreme example, however we all have certain preferences and perhaps do not have complete control over them. For example, gray walls are in style...I have tried to like them but I just don’t and nothing is going to change that. I personally feel the dark faced Havanese are just as cute but they just do not come across as well in pictures. There are plenty of other colored Havanese out there. If in doubt, I would wait.
Well, I wonder what ELSE was going on that the MAN would ALLOW his wife to give his dog away, but be that as it may, there is a lot more different about preferences for breeds than preferences for color. I couldn't live with a pug for oh so many reasons that have nothing to do with color... or even looks, really.

But of course it's always possible to pass on a puppy that is the "wrong color" if you really have your heart set on something else. Honestly, I have a "thing" about really uneven markings. I don't think I could take a puppy that had REALLY uneven facial markings, no matter what the color. It's a personal thing.

Just remember that the more strict criteria you put on your puppy search, the longer it will take you to find the "perfect puppy". We regularly hear people complaining on the forum about how long it can take to find the "right" breeder who will have a litter in the time frame when they want a puppy. Almost everyone wants a healthy puppy and a good temerament. (some people put on blinders and play Russian Roulette with those and the good breeder criteria, buying puppies over the internet, based on photos, but I wouldn't advise it!) Then some people add that they want ONLY a girl, and ONLY a certain color, and that they ONLY want one small enough to fit in an airline approved carry-on... Oh, and they want it to be a show prospect... Now they are looking for something pretty specialized. The more boxes need to be ticked, the harder it is to find "the perfect puppy".

When I was looking for my first Havanese, I'd been looking for "the right breeder for a long time. (almost a year). I found the Kings, and knew I wanted a puppy from them. I asked to be put on their waiting list. They had a litter, and then soon called me. It turned out that most of the people on their waiting list right then SPECIFICALLY wanted girls, and the WHOLE litter was boys! They asked if I cared whether I got a girl or a boy. I said I didn't care about the sex as long as the puppy was the right fit for me. The rest is history. Kodi couldn't possibly have been a better fit for me and my family! There was no choice in color, even though there were 3 puppies left when I went to meet them because all three were marked almost exactly alike! Black heads, white bodies with a single spot in the middle of the back! LOL!


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That seems very harsh to give away your husband's dog. If you love your husband then his dog's looks shouldn't matter because I am sure she met the dog while they were dating. Then again, maybe the husband wasn't attached to his pug. I guess we all have personal preferences. I selected the breeder I wanted first. I do want a female but I am flexible on the color. I am willing to wait because I don't want to feel regret. Colors can change. I am learning this with the havanese breed. When my daughter got her labradoodle puppy she wanted a caramel or red colored puppy. The litter ended up being cream. She did get the female she wanted but I think she was convinced it was meant to be when the puppies were born on her birthday. She has no regrets.
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That seems very harsh to give away your husband's dog. If you love your husband then his dog's looks shouldn't matter because I am sure she met the dog while they were dating. Then again, maybe the husband wasn't attached to his pug. I guess we all have personal preferences. I selected the breeder I wanted first. I do want a female but I am flexible on the color. I am willing to wait because I don't want to feel regret. Colors can change. I am learning this with the havanese breed. When my daughter got her labradoodle puppy she wanted a caramel or red colored puppy. The litter ended up being cream. She did get the female she wanted but I think she was convinced it was meant to be when the puppies were born on her birthday. She has no regrets.
I agree completely. I was shocked. Perhaps she justified this because she was giving it to her son so she considered it to still be part of the family? I have seen a few animal “rehomings” where the animal is given to another member of the family. Maybe there is less guilt this way. In fact, I am the lucky recipient of two of my sisters cats (urgghh), neither of which I wanted but I felt they would do better with me than the animal shelter. My friend told me later her husband wanted a bull dog. I am wondering if he was pulling her leg. If she didn’t want a pug, she would definitely not want a bull dog! They eventually wound up getting a teacup yorkie.
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Well at least the dog was given to a family member. I feel that is a little different. As for having a preference. No one can judge or bash anyone else for their personal choices. This is one great thing about this forum the members are kind and understanding. I am learning a lot from them. Sometimes you find yourself seeing a different perspective. Someone once said to me the best color will be the color you get and I am sure this is true. I know I am already limiting myself wanting a female so color is definitely not high on my wish list. Besides I've seen a rainbow of beautiful pups and I like them all. I am looking for personality now that I've found the right breeder.
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I did not want a light colored or white dog. And look what I ended up with!!! I was worried that a light dog would show tear stains and saliva stains. Well, that's exactly what I now have with Willow. Not the tear stains but she saliva stains and nothing has seemed to help stop them or get rid of them. I now just ignore the stains and I have no regrets as she is the most personable dog and the smartest dog I have ever had!
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I understand your feelings. I had a bichon and her saliva and tear stains were awful. I tried Angel Eyes and bottled water but nothing worked. I had to learn to ignore it. My daughter has a cream colored labradoodle and she doesn't have one stain. I guess it's genetics. I was initially biased against black Havanese puppies but after seeing a nice, clear picture I see how beautiful they look. It's just hard to see their lovely features online. They actually look stunning. So I know I'll be happy with any color now.
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Sometimes black and white puppies lighten with the silvering gene. Google search beautiful number one Havanese Bono and you will see the "sad" results of that transformation. I think that might be my favorite color, though I like all of them. My little silvered Zoey (pictured) was a black and white puppy.
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