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Anyone had any personnal dealings with Jeanne Roane of Southern Silks? Any input would be much appreciated. Write to me privately pls at [email protected]
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Anyone had any personnal dealings with Jeanne Roane of Southern Silks? Any input would be much appreciated. Write to me privately pls at [email protected]
She doesn't say anything about health testing, and she breeds "teacups". I'd avoid this one if it were me.


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Was that a personal experience you had? Or are you judging size? What is a teacup havanese? According to her they are at the smaller end of the standard. Everyone has their own preference. Some even like havanese to be 12.5 inches and weigh 17lbs+. I did not ask for a reiteration of what her site says but would like a personnal referance. PRIVATELY thankyou.
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ummmmm, wow.
Teacup size isn't healthy for this breed it isn't a personal preference, it's in the best interest of the dog. Some are on the smaller size, and that is okay, but BREEDING to get them as small as possible, is REALLY not healthy.
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ummmmm, wow.
Teacup size isn't healthy for this breed it isn't a personal preference, it's in the best interest of the dog. Some are on the smaller size, and that is okay, but BREEDING to get them as small as possible, is REALLY not healthy.
Tillies Mom is right. Hope you find someone who has had the same problems you are having.

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I think when you ask a question on here, often people want to respond on the forum because the discussion could be helpful to someone else at some point.

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If you are wanting someone to tell you that its a good idea to buy a Havanese from a breeder who does not do health testing on the dam and sire, I really doubt that is going to happen. There are too many people here who have Havanese or who have seen a Havanese with genetic defects that affect the quality of the dogs life, nobody here will promote that type of breeding. If you choose to support it that is your business but you won't find people here who encourage you to do it.

The breeder you are asking about states on her web site: "I do breed to the AKC Havanese Standard which is 7-13 pounds" however, the AKC Havanese standard does not mention weight.

Here is the standard for size:
The height range is from 8˝ to 11˝ inches, with the ideal being between 9 and 10˝ inches, measured at the withers, and is slightly less than the length from point of shoulder to point of buttocks, creating a rectangular outline rather than a square one. The Havanese is a sturdy little dog, and should never appear fragile. A coarse dog with excessive bone is likewise contrary to type and therefore equally undesirable. The minimum height ranges set forth in the description above shall not apply to dogs and bitches under twelve months of age. Disqualification: Height at withers under 8˝ inches or over 11˝ inches, except that the minimum height ranges set forth in the description above shall not apply to dogs or bitches under twelve months of age.

So my question is, how can you breed to an AKC standard weight that does not exist?
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there was a very active lovely member of this forum who got her first havanese from southern silks. it's up to her if she wants to come forward.

meanwhile, i will share with you that she did NOT receive a well balanced, sound, confident, pleasant puppy. she once commented to me that getting a puppy from this unscrupulous breeder was a HUGE MISTAKE.

the dog ended up having to be re-hoamed, and this caused everyone a lot of angst and pain.

eventually, this member ended up with a havanese from a show breeder who health tests. this member could not believe the difference in the demeanor, attitude, health, behavior, etc...

please don't support someone just because her pups are cute or she's near you or because she won't make you "wait" for the right dog.
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I agree with everyone reply. This breeder is not a good breeder. If you are looking for a tiny havanese, you might want to consider another breed. Havanese are not pocketbook dogs.





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I am a little confused by this thread. According to your previous posts, you are a havanese breeder yourself, so I am wondering what information you are looking for. Are you looking for a breeding dog yourself and consider one of hers or is one of your possible clients comparing breeders? I guess the angle of your questions would help people answering the question.
And while I am nowhere near Louisiana, I always like to hear feedback on various breeders, so asking for PMs only kind of defeats the purpose of a forum that is educational to all members. There is always additional info that can be discussed per PM, but let's say a breeder is NOT recommended by someone, I think it's a good thing to have that person's story out there, so future puppy shoppers can take those experiences into account before making their decisions.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the last two sentences of your reply really rubbed me wrong.

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