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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 02-03-2020, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Age for neuter

What is everyones experience/thoughts on the best age to get your pup neutered?





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I think that the short answer is, "it depends". The "right" answer is going to be different for every dog and every family. Many breeders mandate the time in their contract, and if you want to do something different, you need to discuss it with them up-front. But many breeders will work with you on that date if you have a valid reason for wanting to do something different.

This is the best, in-depth look at current literature, and the pro's and con's. I would highly suggest that EVERYONE get a copy and read it before deciding when to spay/neuter their puppy. In fact, I know a couple of breeders who are including this booklet in their "puppy packet" when they send puppies home:

https://shoppuppyculture.com/collect...neuter-booklet
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That looks like a great resource!

I neutered on the early side for a few reasons, including timing with our family’s schedule. I’ll likely wait until a year next time, though. I’ll have to read the literature Karen posted before I decide

There’s kind of a tradition of scaring people into neutering that almost gives the impression it’s impossible to prevent pregnancy without neutering as soon as possible. I learned early on that it’s critical to potty training to supervise my puppy, and we also learned early to control every exit, so the idea of my puppy escaping and getting all of the neighborhood dogs pregnant is pretty far fetched. I also think the common arguments for early neutering, such as preventing marking and humping, are grossly misrepresented. For one thing, both marking and humping can be managed behaviorally regardless of neutering status.

Basically I think everyone has to make the decision based on what works best in their own lives. In some cases it’s going to be earlier than others. Just don’t make the decision under pressure or out of fear that it has to be done right away or there’s irreversible damage. Whatever you decide will be the right thing for your Havanese.
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The dog that we had previously to Skye had problems that I feel were related to early neuter. The worst of which was a ruptured CCL that research has shown a direct link to early neutering. IMHO if you feel you must neuter your dog, it should never be done before they reach sexual maturity.

https://healthyandhappydog.com/crani...ligament-tear/

Elizabeth posted while I was writing. I agree fully with all she said. I will also add that due do circumstances Skye's neuter has been put on hold and he is now 14 months old. He did go through a marking stage that lasted well less than a month and now only marks outside on a leash when I allow it. He had one little friend that he regularly tried (unsuccessfully) to hump. Other than that I can remember only a few short lived attempts to hump objects or humans. Those behaviors can be controlled.

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I agree with both of you. I have an intact 4 year old girl (to talk about it from the female side) The idea that I could not keep her from becoming pregnant "by mistake" is ridiculous. I think she is old enough at this point that if she were not still showing, I'm not POSITIVE there are still benefits to keeping her intact. But from everything I've read and my vet agrees, the risks of allowing her to remain intact (and unbred) until she is at least 6 are minimal. At that point I will reassess, though from the research I have read, even up to 10 years of age, pyo (the biggest health risk for unspayed females) is extremely uncommon in Havanese. The problem is, that IF they get it, it is ALWAYS an emergency, high-risk spay, and extremely dangerous infection. Of course I want to avoid that for her!
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From everything I’ve read, the benefits of waiting, hormone development etc., far outweigh the minimal risk of not doing it. We lost our Cooper to cancer at a young age and I wonder if an early neuter could have contributed. Some of what I read suggests a connection of early neuter/spay to the large number of cancer cases in dogs. So after reading and our breeders suggestion, we decided to wait even though we got a little push back from a vet tech. Ollie will be 18 months in April so that’s when we’ll do it.

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From everything Iíve read, the benefits of waiting, hormone development etc., far outweigh the minimal risk of not doing it. We lost our Cooper to cancer at a young age and I wonder if an early neuter could have contributed. Some of what I read suggests a connection of early neuter/spay to the large number of cancer cases in dogs. So after reading and our breeders suggestion, we decided to wait even though we got a little push back from a vet tech. Ollie will be 18 months in April so thatís when weíll do it.
And while I don't like push back even from vets, push back from vet TECHS should not be tolerated. A vet TECH is NOT a veterinarian and should not be giving veterinary advice. I would complain to the vet in charge if a tech in my vet's office were handing out unsolicited advice on veterinary matters.
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We kindly let the tech know that while we appreciated her opinion, we’d talk to the vet and wait. She pushed a bit more and we let the vet know. It hasn’t happened again.

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And while I don't like push back even from vets, push back from vet TECHS should not be tolerated. A vet TECH is NOT a veterinarian and should not be giving veterinary advice. I would complain to the vet in charge if a tech in my vet's office were handing out unsolicited advice on veterinary matters.
Oh wow...I have seen this many times!!! Totally agree!
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From everything Iíve read, the benefits of waiting, hormone development etc., far outweigh the minimal risk of not doing it. We lost our Cooper to cancer at a young age and I wonder if an early neuter could have contributed. Some of what I read suggests a connection of early neuter/spay to the large number of cancer cases in dogs. So after reading and our breeders suggestion, we decided to wait even though we got a little push back from a vet tech. Ollie will be 18 months in April so thatís when weíll do it.
One of my biggest regrets is neutering both my dogs early. I trusted the vet blindly and followed their advice. I know better now. They both have huge strikes against them and I cannot take that back. I have tried to make up for it with diet and avoiding toxins/vaccines which is about all I can do at this point. So far they are healthy at age 11 so I consider myself lucky so far. But the odds are against them.
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