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15/16 car harnesses fail crash test

Just watched a shocking YouTube video made by CBC Canadian TV. They formally crash tested 16 different car harnesses at a University lab in Michigan where child seat and human seat belts are tested.

The "dummy dog" they used bigger than Havenese (about 50 lb dog). All but one harness failed crash test including the one I use which was supposedly crash tested, KURGO. It failed.

I guess a soft crate strapped in is the safest way to transport dog. But crate attachments themselves must be strong. Harness type material doesn't seem to be very strong from these tests.

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I chose PupSaver when I got my puppies. Crash test approved!



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Well, that review is 6 years old and models have changed significantly since then. So I am not sure how much you can go by that video. But the thing is, if you watch how much the dog's neck and spine are deformed in a crash, even in a harness that keeps the dog in place, I have no confidence that a harness will save the life of a dog in more then the lowest velocity crash. I actually have a friend whose dog was in a high-quality car harness in a car crash. The harness did not break, nor the attachments. But the dog's spine and internal organs were damaged to the point that he had to be humanely euthanized when he arrived at the vet's office.

IMO, ANY crate system that is strapped down in a safe area of the vehicle is better than any harness. Wire crates are the worst. There are a lot of good, safe crate options available now, based on the kind of car you drive, and where the crate will be placed (CAN be placed) in the car. For a single dog, a top quality soft-sided carrier in the middle of the back seat is a wonderful and economical choice.

With multiple dogs and multiple vehicles that they need to go in, we find that Ruff Tough Kennels are a great, not terribly expensive and very versatile option. They all ride in these in our pick-up truck back seat on vacations, and this is Pixel's regular "ride", in the back seat of my Subaru Forester. Panda and Kodi ride in a double Vario-Cage in the back of my Forester, which is a VERY safe option. But this is very expensive, close to immovable (it weighs 80 lbs) and can ONLY be used in an SUV with a bench back seat to rest against. So it is certainly not the best option for everyone. Before I got the Subaru, I used two Ruff Tough Kennels in the back of my Mini Cooper and felt pretty good about that option.
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After trying many different options and knowing someone whose dog also suffered from being in a harness/dog seat, I chose a G1 Gunner kennel secured with straps on the back seat of my SUV. Yes, it takes up an entire 2 seats, but Teddy is content and safe. I have a low profile cushy dog bed inside of it and he can see me through the plastic grating. It is 5 star rated for crash testing and doesn't get hot in the summer. I absolutely love it and it is a perfect fit for my Teddy who is 14.5 pounds ( but very long .
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After trying many different options and knowing someone whose dog also suffered from being in a harness/dog seat, I chose a G1 Gunner kennel secured with straps on the back seat of my SUV. Yes, it takes up an entire 2 seats, but Teddy is content and safe. I have a low profile cushy dog bed inside of it and he can see me through the plastic grating. It is 5 star rated for crash testing and doesn't get hot in the summer. I absolutely love it and it is a perfect fit for my Teddy who is 14.5 pounds ( but very long .
Gunner makes great crates! They weren't making ones small enough for Havanese when I got my Variocage (I waited quite a while hoping they would!) or they would have been a strong contender for me!


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Yes, I tried the smaller vario-cage and it was still too large. I also preferred the heavy-duty plastic so the crate would not get too hot in the summer. The G1 Gunner is perfect for us and I am so happy that I found it. Of course, I can only seat three in my small-sized SUV now, but as an empty nester that works out fine for me. I don't lock the door on the kennel, just in case of an accident. I also have "pet alert" stickers on my car since the windows are darkened.
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Yes, I tried the smaller vario-cage and it was still too large. I also preferred the heavy-duty plastic so the crate would not get too hot in the summer. The G1 Gunner is perfect for us and I am so happy that I found it. Of course, I can only seat three in my small-sized SUV now, but as an empty nester that works out fine for me. I don't lock the door on the kennel, just in case of an accident. I also have "pet alert" stickers on my car since the windows are darkened.
The Variocage does not get hot. It is extremely well ventilated. But yes, size-wise, it is probably bigger than absolutely best for Havanese. I got the double small with the idea that the two girls would ride together in one side. That didn't work for other reasons. (Pixel barks if she can see out, which she can in the variocage, and she gets all three barking! LOL!) So she rides in an RTK strapped on the middle seat)

We have a Subaru Forester, and the Variocage fits behind the back seat (which is the only place it should be mounted) which gives us complete normal use of the back seat if Pixel isn't with me.

It really does depend what vehicle you have, how you use your vehicle and how many dogs you have which crating system makes the most sense and will work safest for you!
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