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Does anyone else let their Havanese out running and romping for hours on end in a large fenced yard? She just loves to be outside every minute of the day!
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There is nothing wrong with it EXCEPT you have to keep in mind that they are small dogs and coyotes can get over most back yard fences and take them. (as can mountain lions and even bobcats if you are in parts of the country where those are a problem, but coyotes are almost everywhere) Even large hawks can be a danger. So you do need to keep an eye on them when they are playing outdoors.
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My Hav loves to be outdoors. But he is not allowed to be in my fully fenced(6ft. solid pvc fence) in yard unless I am there watching. In addition to coyotes that could jump the fence, we also have birds of prey, snakes, poisonous toads, geekos...you name it. Many things that I don't want to get him or him to get. I would be concerned about a dog digging or other bad behavior.
We do go for 3 walks in our hood a day. He is very social and I think it is important for dogs to be out in the world, not out in a yard. Some of our walks, we meet people and dogs along the way. There is always something for him to see, new situations/people to observe.
Are you out there watching him for hours at a time?
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The other large dog in the family is out as well. I set my timer for every 20 minutes, but I can usually see her run by the door more often than that. Digging has become a problem though. When I catch her she gets reprimanded. And, I'm not sure giving her this independence is helping with her manners.....thoughts? I do take her for a 40 minute walk each day as well. She just has SO much energy.
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The other large dog in the family is out as well. I set my timer for every 20 minutes, but I can usually see her run by the door more often than that. Digging has become a problem though. When I catch her she gets reprimanded. And, I'm not sure giving her this independence is helping with her manners.....thoughts? I do take her for a 40 minute walk each day as well. She just has SO much energy.
Mine has a lot of energy, too. People tend to advise exercise a lot for excess energy, and while exercise is important, mine could go all day outside on walks and still not act tired. Sometimes exercise gets him worked up. I have found that engaging him and making him think is much more effective. 5 minutes practicing sit, stay, and some of his other favorites is more effective than a 20 minute walk. On most days he gets 5 minutes of practice, and 10-15 minutes of inside, active play in the evenings. He does get walks, too, but they vary depending on the weather, our schedule, etc. This week he had a long walk on Monday, a short walk on Tuesday and extra short on Wednesday, no walk today, and he’ll probably get a short walk Friday and a long walk on Saturday.
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Your recommendation is very interesting. I'll try it.
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The other large dog in the family is out as well. I set my timer for every 20 minutes, but I can usually see her run by the door more often than that. Digging has become a problem though. When I catch her she gets reprimanded. And, I'm not sure giving her this independence is helping with her manners.....thoughts? I do take her for a 40 minute walk each day as well. She just has SO much energy.
My Mia loves digging and if there is a lot of mole activity she becomes obsessed! Hopefully you do not have this problem...
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We had gophers that were relentless.After three new lawns we installed artificial turf. We tried gopher bombs and flooding them which didn't work. My two only sniffed, but didn't dig. I got tired of the muddy paws and was afraid they could break a leg. I only leave them outside if I'm watching. I'm concerned especially at night a coyote or mountain lion might jump the fence. Our first Havanese was bitten by two coyotes while on a early morning walk with DH. ☹️
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We had gophers that were relentless.After three new lawns we installed artificial turf. We tried gopher bombs and flooding them which didn't work. My two only sniffed, but didn't dig. I got tired of the muddy paws and was afraid they could break a leg. I only leave them outside if I'm watching. I'm concerned especially at night a coyote or mountain lion might jump the fence. Our first Havanese was bitten by two coyotes while on a early morning walk with DH. ☹️
My dogs are always supervised while outside...too many predators here and copperhead snakes too. In fact, they are always on leash while outside as they do not allow fences here. At the new house we are building I do hope to have small fenced yard so at least they can be off leash. But I will always be with them when they are outside.
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Shama doesn't seem to enjoy being outside without us. Prior to getting a dog, I'd imagined just letting her "play" in the back yard, but the reality is that she likes to be near us.

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