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Since last night, Chester has diarrhea and I am very concerned. Last week he had 3 injections by the vet, namely; Bordetella Vaccine, DHPPV with Leptospirosis and Rabies Vaccine. He looked okay thereafter for a while. My son and daughter in law with their two French Bulldogs came to visit on the same afternoon to celebrate one of their dogs birthday and Chester was very actively playing with them in our back garden which caused some pain that resulted in him panting in the evening and my daughter and husband rushed him to Emergency. The ER vet gave him Metacam injection to take orally for 5 days and Friday was his last injection taken. In addition, I need to note that also we had to change his food. Since I brought him home from breeder in Seattle I carried on with Bil Jacs Puppy food that is made of chicken and yams. Unfortunately PetSmart in Canada do not carry Bil Jacs and could not find a company online either in Canada that carries Bil Jacs or ships from USA to Canada. Also as we all know, due to the current restrictions with Covit19 I am unable to cross the border. In the interim, I purchased Wellness Complete Puppy food from PetSmart as a substitute. I gradually introduced him by giving him 3/4 Bill Jacs and 1/4 Wellness. Unfortunately the Bill Jacs finished so now giving him fully Wellness. I don't know if it is the food or other issues. He will be going to the vet sometimes today, but need to ask if it is determined that it is the food, what food hopefully also available in Canada is recommended for puppies Thank you in advance for advice.
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I SUSPECT the culprit is the new diet. You didn't say when you first introduced the Wellness and when you ran out of BilJacs. I SUSPECT the Wellness has been introduced to his diet at too rapid a pace. Anyway I would discuss the change in diet with the Vet when you visit today.

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Thanks I introduced him to gradual Wellness about two weeks ago and ran out of Bil Jacs about 3 days ago. I am hoping it is his diet and not something else as I can look for an alternate food even though it can be a task!!
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Iím glad heís going back to the vet. What terrible timing to be dealing with this, for both of you!

It it turns out to be food related, I wish there was a way to get you one more bag of the old food so you could continue to increase the new food slowly from the 1/4. Are there food restrictions that would make it impossible for a person you know to ship you one more bag since you canít order it?

My Havanese has a really sensitive stomach, more so as a puppy, so I had to change foods really slowly. I actually mixed the new and old food like you did but the ratio was something like 1:8 scoops in a food storage bag, which is about a weekís worth of food. Then when the bag ran out, each time I adjusted it by 1 scoop of the new food, as long as there werenít any signs of soft poop. If his poop just wasnít as firm, I would keep the same ratio, but if it was soft I would back off the new food a little more until it cleared and then increase slowly again. I know there are things you can add to the food to help, especially since youíre in a bind, so maybe the vet can give you some suggestions if thatís the problem. Thereís also a medication that the vet gave us that helped with diarrhea.

Did he have any issues with 1/4 of the new food?

Mine also had diarrhea after shots as a puppy, but it started 1-2 days afterwards, not after a week. The problem with diarrhea is it can sometimes exacerbate itself. Mine would get diarrhea from too much of a new treat and then a few days later his anal glands would be backed up because his poop was too soft to express themselves. The good news is he grew out of most of this, and he isnít as sensitive to changes as he used to be.
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I meant to also ask, is the protein and formulation similar to the old food? I had more trouble switching proteins, but I just had to back off a bit. Thatís probably when I figured out the 1:8 ratio was a better starting point for my puppy. Also, I know grain free makes people nervous, but mine did terribly off of grain free. Itís the only time we ďfailedĒ a food change. Iím not suggesting switching to grain or grain free, just keeping it the same as the old food for now.
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Thanks. From what I know we dont have food restrictions especially pet dry food as pet stores are rated as essential services. I am going to try to see if someone can ship it to me from the States...but don't know how long it will take. Can you tell me at his age (next week he will be 4 months old) how much a puppy of his age should have. I also have a feeling I may be giving him too much!!. Thanks for your help.
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Since last night, Chester has diarrhea and I am very concerned. Last week he had 3 injections by the vet, namely; Bordetella Vaccine, DHPPV with Leptospirosis and Rabies Vaccine. He looked okay thereafter for a while. My son and daughter in law with their two French Bulldogs came to visit on the same afternoon to celebrate one of their dogs birthday and Chester was very actively playing with them in our back garden which caused some pain that resulted in him panting in the evening and my daughter and husband rushed him to Emergency. The ER vet gave him Metacam injection to take orally for 5 days and Friday was his last injection taken. In addition, I need to note that also we had to change his food. Since I brought him home from breeder in Seattle I carried on with Bil Jacs Puppy food that is made of chicken and yams. Unfortunately PetSmart in Canada do not carry Bil Jacs and could not find a company online either in Canada that carries Bil Jacs or ships from USA to Canada. Also as we all know, due to the current restrictions with Covit19 I am unable to cross the border. In the interim, I purchased Wellness Complete Puppy food from PetSmart as a substitute. I gradually introduced him by giving him 3/4 Bill Jacs and 1/4 Wellness. Unfortunately the Bill Jacs finished so now giving him fully Wellness. I don't know if it is the food or other issues. He will be going to the vet sometimes today, but need to ask if it is determined that it is the food, what food hopefully also available in Canada is recommended for puppies Thank you in advance for advice.
First of all I would fire your vet and find someone else. Any vet that would give all those vaccines at the same time should NOT be practicing. Especially combining rabies with lepto either of which can be especially problematic is blasphemy. Please do your dog a favor and find a vet who is enlightened about the potential dangers of vaccines and how to minimize risk.
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Thanks. From what I know we dont have food restrictions especially pet dry food as pet stores are rated as essential services. I am going to try to see if someone can ship it to me from the States...but don't know how long it will take. Can you tell me at his age (next week he will be 4 months old) how much a puppy of his age should have. I also have a feeling I may be giving him too much!!. Thanks for your help.
I think at that age mine was able to have 3/4 cup of kibble per day. She never ate that much but that was the amount my breeder suggested.



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Yes, I omitted that I did 'fire' the vet and engaged a new one. The ER vet also eluded to what you said, being the vet should not have given all 3 injections to Chester at the same time.
Hence we will not be going to this vet again, even though Eagle Animal Hospital in Port Moody is said to be a very reputable veterinary in the area, but sadly the dad who was the original owner retired and now the practice has taken over by his inexperienced son!
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Don't forget even if you have an amazing vet that you can advocate for your dog
I love my vet and still advocate for my dog. She would prefer to just vaccinate, but I told her we'll do titres and go from there. That when vaccinations are given, they will be spaced etc etc. I trust her opinion, but I also will advocate when necessary.

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