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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-13-2011, 09:58 AM Thread Starter
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sleeping on the bed

Hey all,
I have 3 dogs, 2 anatolians (BIG) and 1 1/2 hav 1/2 shih tzu, ollie.

one of my anatolians is 8 month old pup, Oz. the owner of his sister was just short of being obvious the other day saying that I shouldn't let the dogs sleep on my bed.

so I thought I'd ask you all, what ya think. I'd like to hear from multiple dog owners and our trainers but all comments are welcome.

for me, I've always felt that as long as they got off when I asked, and I was able to get a good nite's sleep, they are welcome to sleep on the bed.
Currently Ollie is the only one that wants to sleep all night on the bed. Oz is long and lanky and he'll come for a snuggle but usually leaves for more comfortable spaced to snooze in.


Oz and Ollie I think being both boys and young (Ollie is 1 yr old)... they sometimes bicker, but it's all noise, they never physically hurt each other, and I do break it up if I'm home. Oz is 65 lbs, Ollie is 12 lbs. had Ollie first.

anyway, Oz is the type of dog that instigates, and will try to set Ollie off (some times), Ollie is the type that play play play, but then sometimes play goes to far, and him being the smaller, he might get 'hurt' (minor)... then he comes back with a vengeance.

anyway, the other insinuation that the other pup owners makes is Ollie is the problem in the bickering (that Ollie doesn't know his place in the back, aka last) and for me, in any relationship (Oz and Ollie are brothers), no one is ever 100% at fault. they get along great 90% of the time. and they are inseparable.

I'm not a dog whisperer, but I do know my boys. anyway thoughts? I am open minded and am curious to see what the collective has to say.

thx in advance.
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I've always had my dogs sleep with me in bed, large or small dogs. I wouldn't have it any other way. They have beds on the floor if they prefer that, but they're welcome with me. The only thing that disturbed me for a long time was the dog hair on all my clothes with the shedding dogs, and the accumulated hair on the linens. My work around for that is to put a flat sheet over all the bedding (incuding comforter) before they go to bed. They're comfortable and I feel as if my linens stay cleaner.

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Perfectly fine. So long as you train them to get off when asked. This is just one of a thousand articles bebunking this die hard "dominance" myth. http://www.ohbehave-dogtraining.com/...beds-furniture . If you want 57 more articles. email me.

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Dizzie sleeps on the bed with us.This came about when Nellie arrived, it was his own special cuddle time and time out from little Miss Naughty Nellie, as she could not get on the bed.Now he still sleeps with us,and Nellie is allowed to come on the bed for a cuddle before lights out, and first thing in the morning as we are getting up, but she sleeps the night in her bed next to me.If they were allowed the cats would all be in with us but they like to play around at night and leap from wardrobe to wardrobe, then purr loudly in our faces whilst trying to sleep on our heads! When I get up in the morning they are lined up outside the bedroom door waiting for the pups and me,not to mention breakfast!The thing is the Havs know when they can and when they can't get on the bed,not that Nellie doesn't try it on at times,but she is young!

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thanks for the replies so far.

dave do you have an article that debunks the 'higher ground' myth, you know that the alpha has higher ground (aka the bed) than the beta dogs... so if you share the bed they are equal to you...

my 'friend' is a big dog person, and obviously negatively bias toward little dogs, regardless, I'm beyond the age of getting into pissing matches about theory. I respect her stance, but her pushing her stance on me, well, heck, that just ain't cool

so I'm just checking in to make sure that I"m not the nut job here.

thx.
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thanks for the replies so far.

dave do you have an article that debunks the 'higher ground' myth, you know that the alpha has higher ground (aka the bed) than the beta dogs... so if you share the bed they are equal to you...

my 'friend' is a big dog person, and obviously negatively bias toward little dogs, regardless, I'm beyond the age of getting into pissing matches about theory. I respect her stance, but her pushing her stance on me, well, heck, that just ain't cool

so I'm just checking in to make sure that I"m not the nut job here.

thx.
Here's two articles, I have 56 more related. Follow the links in the article. http://www.nonlineardogs.com/index.html
and the other http://www.baywoof.com/2008mar_alpha.html

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thanks for the replies so far.

dave do you have an article that debunks the 'higher ground' myth, you know that the alpha has higher ground (aka the bed) than the beta dogs... so if you share the bed they are equal to you...

my 'friend' is a big dog person, and obviously negatively bias toward little dogs, regardless, I'm beyond the age of getting into pissing matches about theory. I respect her stance, but her pushing her stance on me, well, heck, that just ain't cool

so I'm just checking in to make sure that I"m not the nut job here.

thx.
Well, if you're nuts then you have lots of company! Abby sleeps with us, too! When we had two dogs they both slept with us! But, they also know/knew what "down" means!

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Thought I would throw in a more recent one by APDT , the largest group of dog trainers in the world. http://www.apdt.com/petowners/choose/dominance.aspx

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here's a list of so called things dogs do to "dominate " us. http://www.apdt.com/petowners/choose...ancemyths.aspx Tell your friend her dog is going to get her.

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Tucker sleeps with DH and myself. He has his own blanket at the foot of the bed and as soon as we put him on the bed, he "fixes" the blanket, lays down and is asleep within seconds. I couldn't tell you why, but we both like having him on the bed with us. I'm thankful he's not a restless sleeper.
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