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All of these issues related to where we might live next (where is the job offer going to come from), how will we travel - will Perry be able to travel in cabin... or even worse (for a job I interviewed for yesterday) - will it be in a place that is really complicated to get to and requires travel in cargo AND quarantine for him (away from me!) is causing me 1000x greater anxiety than anything related to COVID or any other issue has.

It is, of course, all exacerbated by the current economic times. The last time we hit a recession I lost my job (as international development funds also reduced). We can survive if that happens, but it makes me want to be open to more opportunities in places I might not have considered a year or two ago because of what it meant for Perry and travel - now, the anxiety is whether I can realistically write off a location because of travel issues or quarantine in this situation (especially if it's a great / interesting/ really good fit for me job).

SO, that's my anxiety ramble for today . I hope everyone else is dealing with the current situation in your location well.
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Wanted to say it was REALLY good to see a post from you! I am glad that you are safe. I wish you much success with finding a new job and getting Perry to fly with you safely.
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All of these issues related to where we might live next (where is the job offer going to come from), how will we travel - will Perry be able to travel in cabin... or even worse (for a job I interviewed for yesterday) - will it be in a place that is really complicated to get to and requires travel in cargo AND quarantine for him (away from me!) is causing me 1000x greater anxiety than anything related to COVID or any other issue has.
I had a long conversation with my son-in-law last Sunday, specifically about you and air travel with Perry. He conceded that he was not an expert on canine restrictions for dogs in all countries, that you were in a better position to know than he does since you are an international traveler with Perry. He only knows on the routes his airline travels. He said the two most difficult places on his routes are England and Hawaii (but you already knew that). He asked if you had checked about flying through Johannesburg. In terms of flying Perry in cabin, he said to check with airlines based in the Middle East or Asia. They tend to have more "relaxed" restrictions at this time. He said if Perry were a "service dog", not emotional support dog, he said that almost any airline would be required to take him in cabin. He said that dogs get certified as service dogs for the darndest things these days, a lot like mobility handicap stickers for cars.

A personal note: he said he got a 10% pay cut the first of May but his hours were reduced from 10 days every two weeks to 9 days every two weeks. There is talk that the office he is working at will be permanently shut down and employees will be working from home indefinitely. He believes the new hours, pay cut, and work at home is going to become the new normal. He is just happy he has job left.

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I had a long conversation with my son-in-law last Sunday, specifically about you and air travel with Perry. He conceded that he was not an expert on canine restrictions for dogs in all countries, that you were in a better position to know than he does since you are an international traveler with Perry. He only knows on the routes his airline travels. He said the two most difficult places on his routes are England and Hawaii (but you already knew that). He asked if you had checked about flying through Johannesburg. In terms of flying Perry in cabin, he said to check with airlines based in the Middle East or Asia. They tend to have more "relaxed" restrictions at this time. He said if Perry were a "service dog", not emotional support dog, he said that almost any airline would be required to take him in cabin. He said that dogs get certified as service dogs for the darndest things these days, a lot like mobility handicap stickers for cars.

A personal note: he said he got a 10% pay cut the first of May but his hours were reduced from 10 days every two weeks to 9 days every two weeks. There is talk that the office he is working at will be permanently shut down and employees will be working from home indefinitely. He believes the new hours, pay cut, and work at home is going to become the new normal. He is just happy he has job left.

Keep us posted Melissa.

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Trust me, I have definitely been thinking of the service dog options...

Hawaii and the UK are actually not that hard (other than the "must travel in cargo bit") if you plan far enough in advance - in fact, I have an appointment scheduled for later this week to get blood drawn so that the vet here can send it off (to a lab in Germany) to do an official OIE certified rabies titer test for Perry (the first step to go places like the UK, Hawaii, Australia and many islands as well as parts of Europe) since many of these places that require it have different lengths of when you have to have it done in advance of travel (Hawaii is 30 days, Australia is 180 days).

Traveling through Joburg is actually a pain - they require a bunch of tests even if you're transiting... even provided that the airlines going through there are accepting pet in cabins. Right now though the hardest part is getting out of Kampala (not that i need to yet) - the airport is still officially closed, with only a few chartered flights (chartered by travel companies or embassies) flying out. I just found out that some of the charters are allowing pets in cabin (keeping in touch with our travel vet here who also does a lot of transport - especially now when so many people had to leave quickly and he's been getting their animals on flights) but no guarantees that the onward flights are allowing them.

Some of the middle east airlines are a pain (at least the ones I would fly and/or that fly here) - definitely not dog friendly. Emirates, for example, won't let pets in cabin at all (even before COVID) and only allow them in the hold for flights under a certain length (shorter than our flights here). As for Qatar air "Qatar Airways allows you to carry 1 falcon in the economy class cabin of an aircraft (a maximum of 6 falcons are permitted on each aircraft and country regulations may apply), but no pet dogs or cats are permitted in the cabin."

Not panicking yet - still another 3 months until my current contract is done and then will see where we are on travel options. Hopefully airlines will be back to their new "normal" and allowing pets on flights again. Fingers crossed!
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As for Qatar air "Qatar Airways allows you to carry 1 falcon in the economy class cabin of an aircraft (a maximum of 6 falcons are permitted on each aircraft and country regulations may apply), but no pet dogs or cats are permitted in the cabin."
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Do you have to plan for anywhere you might go, like the bloodwork? Will you find out where you are going and have to prepare very quickly, or will you have a bit of time when it comes down to it to make arrangements?
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Do you have to plan for anywhere you might go, like the bloodwork? Will you find out where you are going and have to prepare very quickly, or will you have a bit of time when it comes down to it to make arrangements?
Generally we have to plan pretty quickly - usually a month or less - though with the current situation there's a lot that can be "blamed" on corona and can give us more flexibility. For example, one of the positions (if they win the project) would likely start in August, but they're already planning for a remote start - during the interview we talked about how we'd go about it with me here in Uganda, the main office in the US and the country program in Papua New Guinea.

I always thought that the bloodwork had limited viability (in terms of how long it was valid) but turns out that for most countries the bigger issue is how long before you travel you get it - and for many countries it's valid for at least 12 months and sometimes longer. If I had known it was valid for that long I would have gotten it done, just in case, when I was home in Jan or march.

So, right now it's trying to plan for any contingency and then wait and see what happens.
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Papua NG is one of my “bucket list” destinations!
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Papua NG is one of my “bucket list” destinations!
If we get the job and I can figure out how to get Perry there with minimal stress then you can come visit
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