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I am always amused at how the dog is suddenly better at the vet's office. I used to say that I was just going to drive down to the vet with no appointment, to see if the ailment was better. My last dog would be doing something that concerned me and I would say to him that I was going to call Dr. T(his vet) and he would stop it immediately! The threat of the phone call was enough!
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One thing I did this time is take a video of Mia. The first time it was a reverse sneeze. Then later I got a video of the super violent sneeze. Taking a video can be helpful if a dog is doing something weird at home so you can show the vet. In my case, it helped avoid the vet visit for the reverse sneeze because I actually thought she was choking. When the vet saw it was a reverse sneeze she felt it was safe to wait. When the vet saw the second one she said bring her in.
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I am always amused at how the dog is suddenly better at the vet's office. I used to say that I was just going to drive down to the vet with no appointment, to see if the ailment was better. My last dog would be doing something that concerned me and I would say to him that I was going to call Dr. T(his vet) and he would stop it immediately! The threat of the phone call was enough!
Happy to hear that all is better!
But I think vets are well aware that adrenalin makes most dogs act more “normal” when they get to the vet’s office. One thing that people can do (I’ve done this a number of times) is to video the troubling behavior at home, so you can show the vet exactly what you were seeing rather than trying to describe while the animal is sitting there with a smile, looking perfectly normal.

Incidentally, that was one thing that impressed the vet in terms of the amount of pain Kodi was in, that he was STILL 3 legged lame even when I brought him into the vets office on Monday, after he’d been injured on Thurday before, and had been on pain meds from Friday on. He was a VERY sore boy!


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One thing I did this time is take a video of Mia. The first time it was a reverse sneeze. Then later I got a video of the super violent sneeze. Taking a video can be helpful if a dog is doing something weird at home so you can show the vet. In my case, it helped avoid the vet visit for the reverse sneeze because I actually thought she was choking. When the vet saw it was a reverse sneeze she felt it was safe to wait. When the vet saw the second one she said bring her in.
Ha! I wrote my message without having read this one! Two great minds, I guess! Video is such a great tool these days!!!

I am also video taping the rehab exercises I’m doing with Kodi, so that the vet can make sure we are doing them right. Normally with sports rehab, there would be more appointments, closer together, and we would work together, with her making sure Iknew exactly what I should be having him do. But because of the Covid situation, she had to describe to me over the phone what she wanted me to do, and then I had to go home and make it happen. It has NOT been easy!!!
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I am also video taping the rehab exercises I’m doing with Kodi, so that the vet can make sure we are doing them right. Normally with sports rehab, there would be more appointments, closer together, and we would work together, with her making sure Iknew exactly what I should be having him do. But because of the Covid situation, she had to describe to me over the phone what she wanted me to do, and then I had to go home and make it happen. It has NOT been easy!!!
But you are don't have Covid, thank dog, because you are exercising good judgement. The alternative for you would be a disaster for Kodi. Doing new things differently are never easy, I am having more trouble than most because I am so stubborn and set in my ways. But doing things differently will soon become the new normal, if not already, and going back to the old ways will be the new "not easy." You are doing a good job Karen whether you want to accept it or not.

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Ha! I wrote my message without having read this one! Two great minds, I guess! Video is such a great tool these days!!!

I am also video taping the rehab exercises I’m doing with Kodi, so that the vet can make sure we are doing them right. Normally with sports rehab, there would be more appointments, closer together, and we would work together, with her making sure Iknew exactly what I should be having him do. But because of the Covid situation, she had to describe to me over the phone what she wanted me to do, and then I had to go home and make it happen. It has NOT been easy!!!
I agree the video is such a great tool but since I went into panic mode I almost forgot to do it!!! I also documented everything in an email and attached the video. I then called the vet and discussed the situation with the vet tech and asked that she please have the VET look at the email. Although most vet techs are great, I occasionally have gotten one that thinks they are a vet and starts giving advice. In this case, the vet tech just had the vet look at my email so I cut out the middle man. I have to say I am super pleased with my current vet. She is great. I had to switch a few times to get to a really great vet but well worth it.
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But you are don't have Covid, thank dog, because you are exercising good judgement. The alternative for you would be a disaster for Kodi. Doing new things differently are never easy, I am having more trouble than most because I am so stubborn and set in my ways. But doing things differently will soon become the new normal, if not already, and going back to the old ways will be the new "not easy." You are doing a good job Karen whether you want to accept it or not.

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Oh, I know this is the way things have to be for a while, and I am REALLY glad we can do it in a way that keeps us safe, but more importantly the vets and staff safe, so that they are there when our animals need them!

My instructor contacted me last week to see if, when they reopen (even MA, as one of the last two states holding out on re-opening will have SOME amount of re-opening as of Tuesday) I want to set up lessons again on my old schedule. I normally have a private lesson every Friday, and gor years have taken two group classes, back to back, on Wed. evenings. (A Utility class with Kodi and Panda first, followed by Pixel’s Novice class) when I am there on Fridays, my instructor and I are often the only ones in the very large building. Occasionally, there are one or two people and their dogs in the other ring, so a good 50 feet away. I think that is a pretty reasonable risk if we are all wearing masks, as will be required in MA.

In our classes, there are 8 dogs per class, rarely more than one person per dog, and everyone sits with their crated dog in between them and the next person. But there is all the coming and going at the door, all the crate setting up and taking down, and I think of the “6’ rule” as a BARE MINIMUM. However, at that same time, in the other ring, there are puppy classes. I think there are 10 puppies allowed in those classes, and it seems to me that each puppy brings its whole family (though I think they plan to limit that now) that ring is FULL of people, all milling around, kids climbing the divider wall to watch us work our dogs... And while the building is large, the heat and AC system is blowers, that just blow air around within the building. It has all been perfectly adequate under “normal” circumstances, but seems wholely inadequate now.

I told her I just didn’t think that with my immune system issues, I could safely come back to group classes until we had a vaccine. She totally understood, and said she has a couple of other students with similar issues that are in the same situation. The thing is, there are times that I HAVE to take more risks than I am comfortable with... going in town to the hospital for my infusions. Shopping if Minerva can’t do it for me for some reason. (although that has only happened once)

Dog training and showing, as important as it is to me, is not a “necessity”. I am not willing to put my life on the line for it. As much as I miss the social parts of it, I hear about the modifications they are making for allowing trials to go forward, and think... “That’s still not enough to keep everyone safe; is a ribbon or a title REALLY worth that?”

Now CDSP is offering online video titles (separate program from the regular titles) and I may play around with doing some of those with Panda and Kodi. AKC is offering all their trick dog titles and also Rally Novice in online format, full, regular titles. I may do that with Pixel. (Kodi and Panda already have those). The AKC program is a test program, at this point offered through the first of the year. I think the CDSP one is permanent, meant to bring CDSP to parts of the world where they do not have live CDSP trials, even without the interference of Covid. Oh, and there are TONS of online classes. The super-awesome Lemonade Conference next weekend is closed now, but both Fenzi Academy and Susan Garrett’s School offer tons of on-going online classes of the highest quality. (This has nothing to do with Covid, this has been going on for years) So, from my perspective, there there’s plenty to do with my dogs without leaving home.

But teaching Kodi to WALK through cavallti?!?! THAT is a challenge!!! LOL!


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Glad to hear Mia and Dexter are doing better! One day I'll get caught up with my reading in this forum. (Should we try to have a Zoom meeting over Memorial Day Weekend? I can't do Saturday ...)

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We had a scare with Mia this week. She was eating grass and suddenly appeared to be choking. She seemed to work this out but then for the next day whenever she would move she started reverse sneezing which she rarely ever does. I called the vet who said as long as she was breathing okay to give Benadryl in case this was an allergy. Mia has never had allergies but tried the Benadryl as the vet suggested for two days. This did not help. The evening of the second day she was in her crate and had a super violent sneezing fit. This was a regular sneeze...not reverse sneeze. It was so scary I called the emergency after hours vet ready to take her in. However, they suggested I wait until the next day and take her to the regular vet. Mia did calm down but would not eat her dinner which is crazy for her. Mia loves food and has never missed a meal in her entire life!!! Yesterday she was at the vet all day for observation and they also checked her out thoroughly. All blood work normal, no heart worms, nose and throat looked good as far as they could tell. She does have slight tartar build up on one side of mouth but gums looked good. Mia did not sneeze once at the vet. We brought her home and it has now been 40 hours since the big sneeze and she has not sneezed once. I am wondering if the violent sneeze dislodged whatever was bothering her. Very scary experience.
Never fails. Wait long enough and most things just go away. Works for humans that way. In the process, we decide something's wrong. We go to the Doctor or Vet and they find nothing wrong. Another way to get well is make an appointment with the doctor. Often times it's good thing we usually have to wait a couple of weeks, unless it's an ER.

This waiting out the illness works a lot of the times. My retired physician and doctors often Wait. Sometimes they wait a little too long. A Voice of Experience: Had a few close calls.
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I would be in panic mode too! I am not good with the phone at the best of times. Probably need to practice just in case.
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