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Is it possible to fix separation anxiety ever??

I'm going to pick up my puppy on July! So exciting and nervous. I've read all the information about havanese, this breed seems to be perfect except almost one said they would suffer severe separation anxiety.
Well, as a young owner I do think I have enough time for him, but I also need to leave him alone at home several hours for several times a week. Is it possible to fix separation anxiety if I start a porper training ASAP when he got home? Tell me if you succeed in this part and have a happy independent havanese. I'm so worried now, really need some faith in it.
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Welcome! Congrats on your puppy <3

My Honey (RIP 11/19/19) had some separation anxiety... it was not really severe thankfully. I crated her when I went out. She felt safe in the crate... so I think proper crate training is really important - they need to learn to love the crate from the beginning - Zak George has a video on youtube with tips on how to get them to love the crate, which I am going to do with Emmy, who I pick up in less than 2 weeks. Her wonderful breeder will have introduced her to the crate beforehand, which is a plus.

Once Honey was completely trained where I trusted no accidents, I would have my dog walker leave her in a somewhat contained area (living room/dining room area) after her walk. She did not exhibit any separation anxiety with anyone but me. With Emmy, I plan to slowly get her used to her not being in the same line of vision - so have her in her ex-pen in another room while I take a shower to start.. then practice leaving for 30 seconds, then a minute and so on.
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They donít come home already programmed with separation anxiety, so you wonít have anything to fix right off. I do think some individual puppies are more prone to anxiety than others, and mine is, but the key is whether those tendencies are observed and reinforced. Havanese do love people, so they are happier with people around. But you can teach your puppy to be peaceful when sheís alone by creating her own safe place (crate, expen, etc), teaching her to play with toys on her own, stimulating her so that she isnít wound up when she needs to be left home, and gradually increasing the amount of time you leave her alone, both within the house and once you leave the house.
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I think Havanese can learn to be content alone for certain periods of time, however I think there is a limit to what that amount of time is. I try to never leave my dogs for more than 4 hours. If I had to leave my dog longer than 4 hours very often I would find a dog sitter or walker to take her out so she would not be alone for so long. Havanese were bred to be companion dogs so that is in their nature no matter how hard your try to train it out of them. I do think it helps to gradually increase the time you leave them alone and also for them to have a place where they feel comfortable and safe, but they need their human.
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I firmly believe that the vast majority of ďseparation anxietyĒ is owner made. Yes, Havanese were bred to be companion animals, and you shouldnít get one if you donít plan to spend a lot of time with them. Also it does them a great disservice if you donít teach them to self-sooth and fewl comfortable staying by themselves for appropriate periods of times.

I have three Havanese from two different breeders. Two are related, one is not. NONE of them have ANY problem with separation anxiety, even though all of them are very attached to us and loving. BUT we were very careful with all three to make sure that being left alone was a normal part of their lives from the very first days they lived with us... at first for just trips to the mailbox, then to the pharmacy, then slightly longer periods...

They always were left in a safe secure place, in an ex-pen when they were little, with a litter box, water and a chew toy. When we got the younger ones, we ALSO made sure that those puppies learned to stay home alone as well as with the other dogs. Thatís important too!

One REALLY important part of this training is that you make sure that both your departure and return are pleasant and matter-of-fact. Donít try to sneak away, but at the same time, donít make a big deal about leaving. A quick, cheery, Iíll be back soon! Is all you need on the way out. When you return, do NOT make a big fuss about greeting the puppy. ESPECIALLY if THEY are making a fuss. Put away your coat, put down your packages. If the puppy is calm, QUIETLY tell him he is a good boy, give him a gentle greeting and take him out to go potty. If the puppy is screaming and carrying on, TOTALLY ignore him. Go about your business as if he didnít exist. No matter how hard it is until he has calmed down. If he ramps up as you approach the oen, walk away again. As many times as it takes. Tantrums do NOT get your attention.

Someone mentioned using taking a shower as a first ďseparationĒ. While the puppy certainly needs to learn to allow you some ďprivate timeĒ in the house (or not... sometimes all three of mine follow me into the bathroom when I shower! LOL!) they ABSOLUTELY know the difference between you being in a different room and being out of the house. So this may or may not help you with separation issues. When Kodi was a puppy, he was actually brattier about me leaving him in his pen if he knew I was in the house. He was FINE if I left the house! LOL!
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I agree with everything Karen said. However, I think Havanese and most dogs have limits on how long they can be left alone without some sort of psychological consequences. I know people with dogs who are gone 10 - 12 hours at a time on a regular basis. I think this is asking TOO MUCH from a dog. There are ways to help with this such as doggy day care, dog sitters, dog walkers, etc. so people in these situations may have to get a little creative to provide their dog with more companionship. Even if the dog does not show separation anxiety it is likely stressed out which is not good for them.
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I have thoughts for you but no time right now. Meanwhile, here are some old threads which could help you ...

https://www.havaneseforum.com/7-trai...ml#post1372730

https://www.havaneseforum.com/7-trai...n-anxiety.html

https://www.havaneseforum.com/7-trai...-behavior.html

https://www.havaneseforum.com/7-trai...ome-alone.html

Good luck, and keep in touch!
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I agree with everything Karen said. However, I think Havanese and most dogs have limits on how long they can be left alone without some sort of psychological consequences. I know people with dogs who are gone 10 - 12 hours at a time on a regular basis. I think this is asking TOO MUCH from a dog. There are ways to help with this such as doggy day care, dog sitters, dog walkers, etc. so people in these situations may have to get a little creative to provide their dog with more companionship. Even if the dog does not show separation anxiety it is likely stressed out which is not good for them.
I agree with THAT completely too. We have a few people on the forum who work outside the home full time and have come up with wonderful solutions to break up the day for their Havanese. I think that is an absolute necessity. Havanese (and other breeds, quite frankly, should NOT be left alone on a regular basis for 8 hours or more a day. Even 6 is pushing it if it is a daily occurrence. (though it is fine on an emergency basis as long as the dog has an appropriate potty option)
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Yes. You know who's been suffering from terrible separation anxiety lately? The woman who usually hangs out with Shama for at least an hour every day while DH and I are at work! We are so lucky to have her. She brings her mother to the senior center then comes to hang out with our dog. When we had an exchange student last year, she used to occasionally give her rides! We met her at a dog show. She was holding a bichon while the owner was getting lunch. She LOVES dogs, but she lives with her parents, and they won't allow her to have a dog.
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When I first got Mia I had a job where I worked 50 percent at work and 50 percent at home. After a short time, I got a job where I worked 100 percent at home...not because Mia had separation anxiety but because I did!
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