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Just wanted to let you all know that we're still fine. Cases are rising in Uganda, but still no deaths and we're just crossing the 800 case threshold here, so still relatively low.

Perry's still enjoying hanging out on his bed in my office - though he's developed an ability to tell time - and if I stay at my desk much past 4pm he starts throwing toys and chewies at me and making grumbling sounds .

We're also looking at wrapping things up and hope that regular flights open before August when we need to pack up the house and move.

In the meantime, I had a question for everyone -- Perry has been very itchy the last few weeks. The problem - nothing has changed so I am at a loss as to what it might be. Pretty much everything is exactly the same as it's been for the past almost 4 years since he joined our family. He gets the same food (only difference is that I switched breakfast and dinner- now Fromm kibble in the morning and Stella & Chewy freeze dried patties at night because I wanted the stella/chewy patties to soak longer and that's easier to do for dinner) - same variation of flavours as we've been doing for 4 years... nothing new outside - same yard and no sprays or anything in the yard. Same heartworm and flea/ tick meds (no fleas to cause the itching - I've checked him thoroughly). Same probiotic and joint supplement that we've used for years. Same treats.

Same shampoo (exact same because I got a big bottle years ago so am still using the same one) - though I've also switched to an oatmeal one I also had (and did use before with no problem, same one that his groomer in the US uses) after the itching started because I wanted to see if the oatmeal might help.

I've added benadryl - but it's only slightly helping. He's not to a level where he's scratched hair off or irritated it by scratching too much (yet), but he's so itchy in the morning that he barely walks a few steps before he sits down to scratch himself (and I think he can't reach all the spots ).

Any recommendations on what I can add/ give him? I don't have any confidence in the vets here for this sort of thing - it's not at such a serious level, no hair falling out or anything, so I don't really want to deal with a vet for it right now, so any suggestions on things I could do/ give him would be great. thanks.
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It could be yeast. This sometimes acts up worse in damp weather...not sure if this is your case. If it is yeast, you definitely do not want to use an oatmeal shampoo which will feed the yeast and make it worse. You could make a 50/50 solution of apple cider vinegar and water and rub this into the skin to help. Just make sure he has no wounds or anything like that because it will burn. I would also try a good soil based probiotic. Thyroid problems can also cause skin issues...wondering if you have checked thyroid levels recently. Also wondering if he has had vaccines recently which fire up the immune system and can result in itching. Just a few thoughts that may help. Good luck.
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we are not qualified to offer specific advice, have you looked at Hemopet?

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Perry has been very itchy the last few weeks. The problem - nothing has changed so I am at a loss as to what it might be. Pretty much everything is exactly the same as it's been for the past almost 4 years since he joined our family.
Ricky suffers from seasonal allergies, just like humans. He gets itchy and his eyes tend to weep more. We give him benadryl once a day but it it is only marginally effective. When it gets particularly itchy the Vet will give him a prescription antihistamine and prescription topical spray, enough for a week or two. We have found an over the counter anti-itch spray that seems to work as well as the prescription spray. We use it on a daily basis when he is particularly itchy, like right now. It is called "Veterinary Formula hot spot and itch relief medicated spray" It is available on Amazon. We also wash his tear ducts after his walkies in the morning and that definitely helps the eye weeping. Our GUESS is that Ricky is particularly allergic to lawn grasses that are pollinating right now, but who knows. We aren't taking him to the Vet because the itching is not that bad with the protocol we use and it is such a hassle to go to the Vet what with Covid worse here than it has ever been - record cases increasing each day.

Good luck with Perry, we hope he gets some relief.

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Sorry I have no advice for you except when Cassie started having itchy problems after almost three years on the same food, i learned that food allergies can develop over time to what previously caused no problems. We switched her food and she has been itch free now for nine months. Done in consultation with a new vet who understood nutrition and allergies....it made sense when i thought about it...

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I am wondering about the shampoo you have “had for years”. My understanding is that shampoo does not stay good forever. May be worth getting a new bottle. Allergy testing sounds like a good idea but it never hurts to use our own deductive reasoning skills to look at what has changed in the case where a dog suddenly becomes itchy. Although I do realize allergies to something can develop over time.
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we are not qualified to offer specific advice, have you looked at Hemopet?
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Sorry I have no advice for you except when Cassie started having itchy problems after almost three years on the same food, i learned that food allergies can develop over time to what previously caused no problems. We switched her food and she has been itch free now for nine months. Done in consultation with a new vet who understood nutrition and allergies....it made sense when i thought about it...

Glad to hear you are all doing well. Hope your departure goes smoothly.
I have wondered if maybe he was developing a "new" food allergy - I am hoping to take him to the vet and discuss allergy testing when we're back in the US in September - in the meantime it's not possible to change his food as I brought it over with me (the only food available in the store is low quality and something I wouldn't feed - plus I'm a little paranoid about it because a friend in Kenya just lost two dogs to Aflotoxin because of issues with the food so I'm sticking with what I have with us).
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I am wondering about the shampoo you have “had for years”. My understanding is that shampoo does not stay good forever. May be worth getting a new bottle. Allergy testing sounds like a good idea but it never hurts to use our own deductive reasoning skills to look at what has changed in the case where a dog suddenly becomes itchy. Although I do realize allergies to something can develop over time.
Thanks - I probably will when I'm back in the US, but not possible til September - so trying to figure out some possible ways to give him some relief until then. The itching started before I gave him a bath with the shampoo I had here though and has persisted with 2 different types of shampoo, so don't think it is the cause (though may not be helping either)

Do you know if it's ok to use human shampoo / conditioner for him? I can get some decent brands of that
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Ricky suffers from seasonal allergies, just like humans. He gets itchy and his eyes tend to weep more. We give him benadryl once a day but it it is only marginally effective. When it gets particularly itchy the Vet will give him a prescription antihistamine and prescription topical spray, enough for a week or two. We have found an over the counter anti-itch spray that seems to work as well as the prescription spray. We use it on a daily basis when he is particularly itchy, like right now. It is called "Veterinary Formula hot spot and itch relief medicated spray" It is available on Amazon. We also wash his tear ducts after his walkies in the morning and that definitely helps the eye weeping. Our GUESS is that Ricky is particularly allergic to lawn grasses that are pollinating right now, but who knows. We aren't taking him to the Vet because the itching is not that bad with the protocol we use and it is such a hassle to go to the Vet what with Covid worse here than it has ever been - record cases increasing each day.

Good luck with Perry, we hope he gets some relief.

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Hmmm, I wonder if a human-grade hydrocortisone spray would work as well?
It's the same with Perry - the itching isn't that bad though it's worse first thing in the morning - so it's not something that I want to ask our local vet here (who will likely try to prescribe antibiotics or some heavy duty allergy shot) but it is annoying him so was trying to figure out some possibly remedies to give him a little relief.
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