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My 6 month old pups still spend a lot of time in the xpen when they cannot be supervised but when we are home. How much time in the xpen is too much time? How long (what age) do pups generally stay in the xpen until they can run free in the house? When they are house trained? The only time we have them out and free in the house for about a half hour right after they have gone outside since we are still having problems with the house training.

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Always a little tougher with two. Keep them in there whenever you can't watch them. The key is taking them out frequently. Here's more, http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...-housetraining

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Always a little tougher with two. Keep them in there whenever you can't watch them. The key is taking them out frequently. Here's more, http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...-housetraining
Thank you for the link to this article. I had stopped giving the treats and I think after reading this I need to start that again. Treats for going outside and nothing for an accident inside. Sometimes the most obvious is not obvious when you are in the thick of your dilemma.

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Sorry to hear your still struggling with the potty training issue. The cool thing is you have not given up. Potty training is one of those things where you can give them a treat for reinforcement for the rest of their lives. We are often up late and my crew is taken out at the wee hours like 3am, if they go they get a treat, if not no treat. It is funny because my girl learned that she will get a treat IF she goes, so now she waits for the Lhasa and goes on top of his. As they are now 6 months they will be able to hold it longer. It just needs to click in their brains and that can take a while.

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Sorry to hear your still struggling with the potty training issue. The cool thing is you have not given up. Potty training is one of those things where you can give them a treat for reinforcement for the rest of their lives. We are often up late and my crew is taken out at the wee hours like 3am, if they go they get a treat, if not no treat. It is funny because my girl learned that she will get a treat IF she goes, so now she waits for the Lhasa and goes on top of his. As they are now 6 months they will be able to hold it longer. It just needs to click in their brains and that can take a while.
Thanks for your encouragement. As frustrating as this is I am not one to give up. I know (now) is may not have been the best thing to have gotten two at the same time but we have them now and are in for the long haul! The diapers every so often still are working well. It seems to be poop now. They go all night and they go for 6 hours during the day so I know they can hold it. We take them out and then come in and within a few minutes they will poop. After reading the article that Dave noted in his post I realized we have stopped giving the treats right after they go outside. A simple thing but something we have started doing again. I am hoping that that will help out. It is a good thing that these guys are so cute!

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Just wanted to add that you should give them the treat within seconds of going, so it really clicks that 's why they are getting treats. I still give treats too at 7 months. I always say good girl good potty when I see her go outside. If you really stay on top of it, it will happen. Maggie is finally able to be left outside of her crate when I go out w/o accidents. When she came home from her spay, she had a few accidents (pee) so I pulled back her space that she was in and crated her again when I went out. Within a few days she was back to out of the crate w/ no accidents. Keep working at it, you will be there soon.

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Just wanted to add that you should give them the treat within seconds of going, so it really clicks that 's why they are getting treats. I still give treats too at 7 months. I always say good girl good potty when I see her go outside. If you really stay on top of it, it will happen. Maggie is finally able to be left outside of her crate when I go out w/o accidents. When she came home from her spay, she had a few accidents (pee) so I pulled back her space that she was in and crated her again when I went out. Within a few days she was back to out of the crate w/ no accidents. Keep working at it, you will be there soon.
We take them out on a leash so we are right there with them. We have started giving them the treat again right after they go. We had been doing that in the beginning but I think we just sorta forgot about the importance of the treat. We also have the clicker so we click that and give the treat the split second they are done. We usually take them out individually so they wonít be confused with who is getting the praise but sometimes we just have to take them out together. I am hoping that this does the trick. It sure would be nice for them to be out and about in the main floor of our house. I dream of the day!!!

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[QUOTE=Tony & Milo;376205] We usually take them out individually so they wonít be confused with who is getting the praise but sometimes we just have to take them out together. QUOTE]

I was having a problem with Sugarbaby coming back in and pooping in the house then I realized that she wouldn't poop outside if the Lab was out with us so she has to be alone or she will hold it and find a private place in the house to go. She has now decided that she has to poop behind the big holly bush where you cant see her from the street and she wont go if she is on the short leash she has to be at least 10 feet from me and I cant be looking directly at her. I know it sounds strange but I really think she has a "performance" anxiety.

I guess she has finally trained me, no other dogs, long leash, no looking, behind the bush = no poop on the carpet.
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We usually take them out individually so they wonít be confused with who is getting the praise but sometimes we just have to take them out together. QUOTE]

I was having a problem with Sugarbaby coming back in and pooping in the house then I realized that she wouldn't poop outside if the Lab was out with us so she has to be alone or she will hold it and find a private place in the house to go. She has now decided that she has to poop behind the big holly bush where you cant see her from the street and she wont go if she is on the short leash she has to be at least 10 feet from me and I cant be looking directly at her. I know it sounds strange but I really think she has a "performance" anxiety.

I guess she has finally trained me, no other dogs, long leash, no looking, behind the bush = no poop on the carpet.
I am still cracking up at this! Thank you for sharing. It may be something like that I donít know. I am willing to try anything. Maybe taking them out individually and not looking at them will work. I will give it a try.

You are correct about THEM training us!

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