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Should I Do It?

I joined the spoiled maltese forum- asking for advice on Vana. This is what was emailed to breeders and posted.Curiosity is killing me, Should I just give in and buy the dna test? I found it for $69.99 Wisdom panel- test for havanese and cotons.



:If you do not have the time or if I have already contacted you , just delete and I am sorry for bothering you.

Doing some research I came across your email. We recently rescued a little dog on the hwy , no collar, tags or microchip. She was severly malnurished and was going to be hit. She had a piece of tire tread stuck to a mat in her fur that night it got down to 26- she wouldn't have made it. She wiggled her way into our hearts and is here to stay.

Long of the short we are trying to determine her breed. She has changed, filled out, mats have been tended to ect, the vet thinks she is about a year and she just had her heat. I have some ideas as to what her breed may be- but would like as many opinions as possible. I am considering doing the dna testing to determine her breed. I have found that breeders are the best source of info. so I would apprieciate your feedback.

Desctiption of Havana:
about 10 inches height/ about 14-15 long- body like Falcor- Dragon Dog from Never Ending story longer than tall
weight- when rescued 7.12, now 9.3 she should be around 11 lbs
eyes- almond shape
coat-white with champage, golden color tail and rim of ears, texture- wavy- silky (not poodle like) Tail feathered over back
bite- scissor bite
likes to walk on her hind legs and jump, has a springy gait, loves to be held , up in your lap, separation anxiety.

Breeds that have been suggested: Havanese, Maltese, Coton de tuleure, havamalt, maltipoo, cotonese even shi-poo- I have miniature schnauzers and don't know much about the other breeds except what I have learned from gathering info. Please tell me more about your breed.

Could you take a look and see what you think? ( I have more if you want ) here is a album it shows her changes in the 2 months:
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Thanks and God bless, Jenny:

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oh..Ian and Leta too!!!

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I think you should do the DNA test I do not think you are going to rest tell you know I have always thought Vana looks like a Havanese. My Maddie is AKC Havanese and really looks so different then Zoey If I had found her lost on the street people would more than likely say she is a mix.

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If you think it will give you peace of mind and need answers, then I'd say you should. I don't know how accurate those tests are and would hate to find out they are a scam and just pick a number out of a hat and tell you that is what it is (or guess by pictures?) idk.

Vana looks like she has some Hav in her, either partial or all. My friends that have silk dogs, 3 of their 4 carry their tail behind them and their tail falls back behind them.

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If you can afford it and it's going to be driving you crazy then do it but as Kara said it's hard to say how accurate they are.

Knowing myself, I would probably be dying to know something for sure, too!!!

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If you can afford then do it if it is going to drive you insane not to know. It costs money, don't be surprised at the results. We offer free advice.



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I am not sure how accurate these tests are. Recently, a local reporter sent in DNA for her AKC standard Poodle and the results came back as cocker spaniel and labrador...

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http://www.wisdompanel.com/

this is the one I am looking at- vet recommended.

it is a check swab type

and this is what it says:
What will my dog’s report tell me?
Wisdom Panel™ Insights detects the breeds in your dog’s ancestry. Your report can be interpreted in the following way:

Significant Breed - At least 50% of your dog’s DNA matches this breed, so you are likely to see the most physical and behavioral traits from this breed.
Intermediate Breed - At least 25% of your dog’s DNA matches this breed, so you may see some physical and behavioral traits represented in your dog.
Minor Breed - At least 12.5% of your dog’s DNA matches this breed, but at this level, it is unlikely that this breed’s physical traits are visible unless some of the genes are dominant.

When you understand your dog’s natural tendencies, you can tailor a training, exercise and nutrition program to his needs.

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oh..Ian and Leta too!!!

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The reviews for Wisdom Panel on Amazon are not very good...I hope it is not a waste of money for you.

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I wouldn't waste your money unless you want to have a few laughs. We did one of these (not Wisdom) on my mom's dog. Um....

Lucky is a Golden Retriever/Basset hound/Beagle/Whippet/Miniature Pinscher mix.

Oh yeah.... I really see it. *snort*
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You have to consider when you are dealing with one species of animal that has such a small range of variety in its genetic markers (in the grand scheme of things), there's only so accurate it can get. That said, my mom got the Wisdom Panel test because she was curious about her rescue, and it came back saying she was mostly Finnish Spitz with some other spitz-type dogs thrown in there. Which in reality probably means she's a purebred Finnish Spitz, especially when you compare her to AKC photos of the breed.

Long story short, do it for fun and don't be surprised if it comes back with Havanese/Bichon Frise/Maltese since they all come from the same ancestor
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