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Thats really great info on the dangers of collars Dave. I always thought it was only bad because they could harm their trachea, I am going to use her harness all the time now! Thanks.

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I wouldn't use a choke chain or pinch collar. But I think that in many (not all) cases, harnesses are the easy way out. They don't teach the dog not to pull. In fact, unless they are specially designed "anti-pull" harnesses, they encourage pulling. (any where the leash attaches on the back encourage the dog to pull into the harness like a sled dog) Even the anti-pull harnesses only work if you know how to use them AND the dog has been trained that you will stop moving forward the minute they begin to pull.

It takes time and effort, but I think that teaching the dog to walk on a loose leash, no matter what restraint system he's wearing is the best choice.


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I wouldn't use a choke chain or pinch collar. But I think that in many (not all) cases, harnesses are the easy way out. They don't teach the dog not to pull. In fact, unless they are specially designed "anti-pull" harnesses, they encourage pulling. (any where the leash attaches on the back encourage the dog to pull into the harness like a sled dog) Even the anti-pull harnesses only work if you know how to use them AND the dog has been trained that you will stop moving forward the minute they begin to pull.

It takes time and effort, but I think that teaching the dog to walk on a loose leash, no matter what restraint system he's wearing is the best choice.
not sure what you mean by the easy way out Karen. ?

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not sure what you mean by the easy way out Karen. ?
I think there are a lot of people (again, not all... I know there are some dogs who are incorrigible and impulsive pullers) who use harnesses rather than bothering to tach their dog to walk on a leash properly.

Using a harness will keep people from damaging their dog if they won't train it properly, but whether you're using a collar or a harness, it's much more pleasant for everyone involved if the dog has learned to walk calmly on a loose leash.


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OK I've got you. yeah the harness is no doubt the safest method. Especially if you have not trained your dog to not pull on leash. The ideal is to use the harness AND train to walk loose leash for sure.

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This article made me pretty sad Dave. In fact I just asked my vet if Jasper's martingale collar could have damaged his thyroid. There were more than a few mailman moments . She assured me it could't. But I asked. Very good info.




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This article made me pretty sad Dave. In fact I just asked my vet if Jasper's martingale collar could have damaged his thyroid. There were more than a few mailman moments . She assured me it could't. But I asked. Very good info.
yeah Missy , this is a case where research might be more convincing. I think what we have to learn from it though ,is that there are some things that definitely can happen and some maybe.

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My question though is do you have a color on the dog all the time for the identification tags and then use a harness for walks?

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My question though is do you have a color on the dog all the time for the identification tags and then use a harness for walks?
I don't ever use a collars on my dogs because they cause too much matting. I would never use a collar for walking a small dog because even a well trained dog can lunge at a rabbit that jumps in front of them. That prey drive can really be strong.

Both my dogs are microchipped so if they are ever lost hopefully someone will check for the chip.

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