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if your dog has SA, this could help

well, we have been dealing with major separation anxiety with django since october. on top of that, we have the monthly meds that he must take for his addisons, side affects...excessive drinking and peeing. when his SA kicks in, it's when we leave him alone for a couple of hours and he pees in the house. challenge is to figure out when its SA or meds or both. it's both!

anyways, after meeting with a WONDERFUL behaviorist/vet we now have django on 2 meds. he's on Chlomicalm. because his system is sooo senstive, i always give half the recommended dose and then increase if need be. he's on 1/2 the recommended dose and things are great. the meds helps put seratonin back in his system which he cannot produce. it's not a tranqulizer.

the other one is L-theanine. people can take this as well,it's sold over the counter at most vitamin shops, wholefoods. it basically takes the edge off things. again, i give him 1/5 the amount suggested by the vet. the full dose was too much for him and over a couple of days, we figured the right amount. you have to get this thru your vet because there is a lot of l-theanine out there that's not pure and full of fillers. and of course, don't give it to your dog unless your vet suggest you do so.

i know how hard SA can be and i was never a big fan of meds, didn't want to sedate my dog, etc. but these meds have been amazing and still keeping my Django his happy joyful self. nothing has changed in his personality, etc.

i don't know if we will be able to take him off the chlomicalm, with addisions, he can't produce the hormone needed to deal with stress and if this adds the seratonin he needs, then so be it.

just wanted to give you info on my experience with the above. not everyones dog is the same or has same issues but this has helped our dog and could help yours. talk to your vet.
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glad you have found a combo that works. Don't feel bad in no way. You have to do whatever makes it easier on Django. I'm not a fan of drugs in general but they have their place, and this is one of those places. I do have an article on chlomicalm for your info. You probably have researched it already , but maybe you have'nt seen this one http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed...rchiveid=15564
Dr. Dodson speaks highly of it. and he is a leading authority on drugs and behavior in dogs. I would be cautious going with your own adjustments though. If you feel the vet recommended too much initially , I would discuss it with them before changing the amounts. So glad to hear of the improvements. Keep us up to date.

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oh, i always talk to the vet about adjusting his meds. i never do it on my own.

i know with Chlomicalm you have to very careful how you adjust things. i have noticed that just like regular doctors, the vets tend to say this is the recommended amount without taking into consideration each individual case. they are always very open to things and there have been times when i will talk to them several times in a few weeks.
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He would need a little bit more time to adjust. You just have to watch out for his health and be patient with the dog. I hope Dyango can overcome separation anxiety.

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me too but in the meantime, he's doing great and a happy dog!
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