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Any Lowchen owners here?

Hallo all,

Today I saw two dogs at the park and I thought they where hava's, only to learn that they are Lowchens - Little Lion Dogs. They look soooo much like a havanese! Their owner even told me that they share some lines with hava's.
No, I'm not thinking of getting one lol, just curious what are they like personality wise? Anyone ever owned one? I love to learn about dog breeds, and this is the one I don't no much about.


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Hallo all,

Today I saw two dogs at the park and I thought they where hava's, only to learn that they are Lowchens - Little Lion Dogs. They look soooo much like a havanese! Their owner even told me that they share some lines with hava's.
No, I'm not thinking of getting one lol, just curious what are they like personality wise? Anyone ever owned one? I love to learn about dog breeds, and this is the one I don't no much about.

I remember looking them up on google when I read they were part of the Havanese background.I think the one I saw had a funny hair cut at that time Maddie had lost a bunch of hair on her rear end and reminded me of her

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I don't own but showed a few. They are taller than Havs - a little bit less sturdy but not fine, more square, and actually have pretty different faces (round eyes, etc). And yes, show dogs have that fabulous lion cut!

I found they were more active and a little more independent than Havs. Still very nice companions, but a little bit less 'soft' and velcro-y. Maybe a little bit smarter than most Havs... not as blinded by love!

There is some debate as to if Lowchen are related to the Bichon family or not, but ultimatey, they're probably the German version of the toy dog (Havanese being the Cuban version, Shih Tzus being the Chinese version, Maltese being the, well Maltese version).

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Flynn had a Lowchen. I'm sure she'll weigh in.

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HeHe I thought at first that Yogi was a Lowchen, he is not. I have had more then one Hav breeder and a couple of Lowchen breeders look at him. The reason I thought this, is he is about 12 to 12 1/2 inchs tall. Most Havs I see are on the small side. In Yogi's obedience class there are two Lowchens, they do have round eyes, their face looks different and they're more muscular. The Lowchens in class are calm but like to play and are very good in all sports.

I have one comment I respect Narwyn's experience showing dogs as a handler. I use to show Shih Tzu's and breed them in the eighty's and was with a very large show breeder, I have lived in both China and India. Shih Tzus are not a member of the Bichon family and it is believed that they are a cross between Lhasa Apso's and Pekinese. Also as a matter of amusement in the eastern part of the world India and Tibet they beleave Tibetan terriers and Lhasa Apsos were once the same dog. It is believed the small dogs were taken into the monastary and became watch dogs and the larger ones stayed out and herded Yaks. The feet on the Shih Tzu do not look anything like a Maltese or a Hav, their feet are cat like and of course they are brachicephalic. Just my point of view.

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I'm not an expert on them for sure, but I remember reading about them during my search for a puppy a few years back. I think they're generally considered part of the Bichon family (which includes Havanese, Bichon Frise, Maltese, Coton de Tulear, and a few others). There's some question of whether they're related or not, but they share a lot of the same traits both physically, and with their personality. So I would think the general Bichon personality traits would hold true - friendly, playful, loyal, smart, etc.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bichon
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...a little bit less 'soft' and velcro-y. Maybe a little bit smarter than most Havs... not as blinded by love!
Smarter than most Havs? Then they must be really smart...no way! LOL
I love the fact that havs are considered a 'soft' dogs, mine sure is. It's enough to say his name to stop him from whatever he is doing. Yelling is never necessary and I appreciate this about havs. I love to be friends with my dog and not a boss.

I have found one interesting character thread on a Lowchen forum...I must say that I don't like what I read here: http://lowchen.org.uk/index.php/topic,26.0.html
One of the reasons I love havs so much is that it seems they don't know what aggression means . Sure there will always be some exceptions to the rules, but in general I found this to be true for havs. Havanese Club Netherlands organizes hava walks two times a year, and I've never seen dogs getting in fight with each other like some terrier breeds e.g. They're very tolerant toward other dogs, especially other havs. Fedja's life philosophy would be 'live and let live' .

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HeHe I thought at first that Yogi was a Lowchen, he is not. I have had more then one Hav breeder and a couple of Lowchen breeders look at him. The reason I thought this, is he is about 12 to 12 1/2 inchs tall. Most Havs I see are on the small side. In Yogi's obedience class there are two Lowchens, they do have round eyes, their face looks different and they're more muscular. The Lowchens in class are calm but like to play and are very good in all sports.

I have one comment I respect Narwyn's experience showing dogs as a handler. I use to show Shih Tzu's and breed them in the eighty's and was with a very large show breeder, I have lived in both China and India. Shih Tzus are not a member of the Bichon family and it is believed that they are a cross between Lhasa Apso's and Pekinese. Also as a matter of amusement in the eastern part of the world India and Tibet they beleave Tibetan terriers and Lhasa Apsos were once the same dog. It is believed the small dogs were taken into the monastary and became watch dogs and the larger ones stayed out and herded Yaks. The feet on the Shih Tzu do not look anything like a Maltese or a Hav, their feet are cat like and of course they are brachicephalic. Just my point of view.
Just curious. Did you find shih tzu's to be stubborn? My Sushi is 4 years old, and I swear he is the most stubborn old man dog there is. So I'm just wondering if that is typical of the breed, or if he's an oddball. I love him to pieces, but he is such an old man.

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Maybe a little bit smarter than most Havs... not as blinded by love!
Hey, now wait a minute... I thought Havs were the smartest dogs in the world!


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Hey, now wait a minute... I thought Havs were the smartest dogs in the world!
Actually, the smartest dogs I've had were poodles! My DD couldn't believe I got a Havanese instead of a poodle. She said "Mom, you are just "so" a poodle person.......lol I told her the Hav was for it's gentle nature with "her" children!!!

Of course, you all know I'm getting another Hav very shortly - we've fallen in love with the breed!

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