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This barking is driving me CRAZY!!!

(Meant to start new thread, sorry)

Bella rarely barked..doesn't bark at strangers, doesn't bark at visitors, doesn't bark at dogs.

She is just over 6 months old, sleeps in her locked crate in the kitchen at night. Has been fine with that. When she wakes up in the morning (early, 6:00 or so) she starts to whine and bark. She has been doing this for a long time now but it used to be a whine and whimper and now it's a LOUD bark. She won't stop.

I go down and open the crate to let her out to pee and pay some attention to her but then she won't go back in the crate or even stay gated in the kitchen with her toys or food. She wants us to be with her and will bark and bark until she gets her way.

I have tried everything. I have let her bark it out (she can bark non-stop for more than an hour), I have tried to reward her for being quiet and not barking (but as soon as I walk away she starts up again), I gave her treats, toys, everthing I can think of.

Summer is coming, windows are open and this has got to stop. I don't plan to start my day at 6 am and she is going to wake up the whole neighborhood with this barking if I don't give in to her. She is not reliable enough to roam the house alone yet.

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Since Ache, my Hav, came home my day starts almost at 6 am. (because of her) I think Bella is doing great sleeping by herself in the kitchen, in her crate. 6:00 am is enough for her to be alone and I don't think she will be happy going back to her crate or being alone again after that. They like to be with us all the time. Maybe you can consider having her crate in your bedroom where she can see you. That way she doesn't feel so lonely and let you sleep more time in the morning. Good luck.


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Hello!
Can't believe Bella is already 6 months old!!!
I'm so sorry to hear about the barking, hope an expert can chime in to help you out!
In reading your post, I do think that "giving in to her" when she lets out that bark in the morning MAY be what has caused this problem. From what I understand, we are NOT suppose to let them out if they bark, we are to wait till they are quiet and sitting before letting them out. Tillie has been crate trained also, but she is in our bedroom and she will stay in her crate without a peep until I CHOOSE to get up and let her out. I even get up and get the kids ready for school and out the door while Tillie stays quiet in her crate and then I typically go back to BED! LOL We did this by starting early and being consistant and never letting her out if she was barking or even whining... hope anything I've said makes sense and can maybe help you. I know you don't want her to bark, does she respond to a "QUIET" command? Even if you are standing right next to her crate? If she does respond by stopping barking, even for just 30 seconds, make her wait quietly in the crate and then let her out and "ignore" her. Don't make a big deal, just open the crate say good morning and get on with your morning activites. Each time lengthen the amount of time between when you say quiet and when you let her out.
Just some suggestions! Hopefully other will chime in soon!!!

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she will stay in her crate without a peep until I CHOOSE to get up and let her out. I even get up and get the kids ready for school and out the door while Tillie stays quiet in her crate and then I typically go back to BED!
That's what I'm talking 'bout, LOL. Bella is having nothing of it. I have tried most of the things you said. She will quiet for a minute when I say "quiet" but then starts right up again. I have trained her to wait to run out of her crate until I say it's okay and she will do that for a treat, but once she's out she wants constant attention or she will bark.

What do you do about early morning peeing if you leave Tillie in the crate all that time? I always feel that Bella needs to go relieve herself as soon as she wakes up.
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Havanese are companion dogs and they really want to spend all their time with us. I like Teresita's suggestion. If it was me, she would be up in my bed, but both my dogs sleep in my bedroom. You could also try putting her to bed later and she might sleep later.

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LOL, we have been BLESSED, that's all I can say!!
Seriously, this girl has an amazing ability to hold it overnight! Not so much during the day, but at night, she is a ROCK STAR! She goes potty for the last time around 10pm and typically doesn't go out to pee and poo until 9-ish am. Wether I let her out of the crate at 7am, 8am, or 9am, she will actually wait awhile, get some loves in, play for a bit, greet the cats, rub herself all over the carpet, etc before she wants to go out to go potty. it isn't unusual for her to wait for nearly an HOUR before she goes out!! I never "force" her to go outside, she is nearly a year and she has been trained to ring the potty bells since she was 4.5 months and hasn't had an accident since. I fully trust her to know her body and KNOW when she needs to go AND ring those bells when she needs to go!! She hasn't failed me yet! So, I guess the answer to your question, is that Tillie doesn't need to have an early morning pee! I wonder if she is just bizarre or if any other Havs are this way!?? and YES, we are BLESSED!!

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I do like the suggestion to move her crate into your room if possible. OR if you can, let her out to potty, then let her come hang out with you in your room while you go back to sleep!! As long as she is WITH you, I bet her barking will cease!

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Bella is really cute!! Hmmm, Lizzie was and is quite lazy in the morning. She no longer has a crate, but when she did she would just sit in it and watch us get ready. She was barking like crazy at night. So after several nights of no sleep I brought her to bed with us. All is fine now. She sleeps and in the morning stays on the bed until she is ready to get off. I used to think she had to potty immediately, but she waits about an hour after she gets up until she has to go. Of course, you could let her out and take her back to bed with you, but then she will never want to go in the crate. Sounds to me like she misses you.

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That's what I'm thinking...if I keep her in crate at night and take her upstairs to bedroom in the morning, won't I be encouraging the barking until I go down and get her, especially if she knows that she will be brought up to the bedroom with me?

She might stop barking once she gets up there, but how do I stop the barking from the time she wakes up?

Should also add, the days I work and my daughter is in school she stays happily in her crate without barking. It's just this morning thing...
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So she's in her crate all night and the days you work she is in it most of the day?
I bet she is missing you. Is there no way you could move her crate to your room?
My DH will NOT let animals on our bed, but we compromised by having her crate next to my side of the bed, she never makes a peep. Might be something worth considering... she just wants to be with you.

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