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Scariest moment in my life (so far)

Yesterday after I got home from work the kids kept running in and out of the house with Kipper right on their heals. Kipper managed to squeeze out the door with one of them and had me right behind him saying "ah ah-stop"- yeah he listened as well as my 13 year old to that one. Anyway I was half chasing/half trying to coax him back into the house when he decided he wanted to go next door to the neighbors house and play with their dog. I was right behind him tell him to leave Baby (dogs name) alone. Kipper kept hopping back and forth trying to get baby to play and then baby growled, grabbed him by his neck and pinned him down. I must have screamed as loud as Kipper was yelping and went lunging for Baby. Thank God I grabbed her when she was just starting to shake him- all I could think about was getting her off him, and yanked the scruff on her neck and dug my nails in. She let Kipper go and he took off running. I followed and it took me several minutes to catch him. All I could think about was to grab him and check him/get him to the hospital. After I checked him over really well for blood (thank God again there was none) I then started putting pressure to check for injuries/breaks. He didn't whimper or snap or cry whatsoever so I figured I should watch him and call my vet if he showed signs of internal injuries. I wouldn't let him out of my site all night last night and this morning he was back to his normal hoppy self. I know that all the socialization that I did with him when he was little will pay off in the long run but there is a part of me that feels like if I HADN'T socialized him with all the different size dogs then he wouldn't have assumed the neighbors dog was friendly and tried to play with him.
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Geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............that was scary! What kind of dog is Baby?

I am so glad you were there!



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Geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............that was scary! What kind of dog is Baby?

I am so glad you were there!
She is a mutt. Not as large as my other dog Sadie but compared to Kipper huge. She is normally the sweetest dog but for some reason she doesn't like Kipper at all.
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Kipper probably thought it was a fun game to have Mommy chasing him. Not!!

I'm glad to hear that Kipper is OK. Buster, then 15 months old took off across the street after a feral cat he spotted. Although he was leashed because we were getting ready to go for a walk, I wasn't holding the leash securely.

I chased after him trying to get his attention while waving like a crazy woman at a car coming down the hill. Fortunately, the driver slowed down and didn't hit either of us. The cat disappeared, and while Buster was looking for it, I managed to grab his leash. He looked surprised to see me!

I'm glad Kipper is ok. Too bad the neighbor dog doesn't like him. That must have been so frightening for you and the kids.



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I almost had a heart attack just reading your post! geez.

you were really really lucky. I'm glad nothing worse happened.
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I am glad everyone is ok. That is, without a doubt, very scary!!

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I know that all the socialization that I did with him when he was little will pay off in the long run but there is a part of me that feels like if I HADN'T socialized him with all the different size dogs then he wouldn't have assumed the neighbors dog was friendly and tried to play with him.
DO NOT THINK THIS. It's the guilt talking, which is normal, but don't think that no socialization is the answer (it never is). If your dog was fearful, it would have taken one look at that dog, bolted down the street, and probably gotten hit by a car. A lack of socialization is never a good thing.

If you want to feel more control in the future, train spot-on "Come" and "Leave it" commands. Then you can effectively recall from potentially dangerous situations.

Be sure you re-socialize him to be around big dogs... not to run up and play, but that a safe distance is safe. Otherwise you will have fear aggression in your future, which only makes more scary dog-dog confrontations more likely.

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Yesterday after I got home from work the kids kept running in and out of the house with Kipper right on their heals. Kipper managed to squeeze out the door with one of them and had me right behind him saying "ah ah-stop"- yeah he listened as well as my 13 year old to that one. Anyway I was half chasing/half trying to coax him back into the house when he decided he wanted to go next door to the neighbors house and play with their dog. I was right behind him tell him to leave Baby (dogs name) alone. Kipper kept hopping back and forth trying to get baby to play and then baby growled, grabbed him by his neck and pinned him down. I must have screamed as loud as Kipper was yelping and went lunging for Baby. Thank God I grabbed her when she was just starting to shake him- all I could think about was getting her off him, and yanked the scruff on her neck and dug my nails in. She let Kipper go and he took off running. I followed and it took me several minutes to catch him. All I could think about was to grab him and check him/get him to the hospital. After I checked him over really well for blood (thank God again there was none) I then started putting pressure to check for injuries/breaks. He didn't whimper or snap or cry whatsoever so I figured I should watch him and call my vet if he showed signs of internal injuries. I wouldn't let him out of my site all night last night and this morning he was back to his normal hoppy self. I know that all the socialization that I did with him when he was little will pay off in the long run but there is a part of me that feels like if I HADN'T socialized him with all the different size dogs then he wouldn't have assumed the neighbors dog was friendly and tried to play with him.
Kodi has been attacked twice by a dog-aggressive Springer Spaniel owned by our next door neighbors. Once Kodi was on leash, on OUR driveway as I headed out for a walk with him. I YANKED him up off the ground just before the dog connected, then had to keep kicking the dog as it tried to jump up on me to reach Kodi. The neighbor ran out and grabbed his dog, but it was REALLY scary. The other time, Kodi was sitting on OUR back steps as I was bringing groceries in. (we live WAY back from the road, and he has a reliable recall, so there is no danger of traffic. We are also out of sight of the other dog's house) A visiting child let the other dog out of the house and he came barreling around the stockade fence into our yard and grabbed Kodi on the steps before I could get over there. Fortunately, I was only a split second behind, and kicked the dog off of Kodi. He had only managed to grab a big mouthful of hair.

So I completely understand how scary it is. I live in a constant state of hypervigilance in our own yard because of that dog.


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Be sure you re-socialize him to be around big dogs... not to run up and play, but that a safe distance is safe. Otherwise you will have fear aggression in your future, which only makes more scary dog-dog confrontations more likely.
We had to carefully re-socialize Kodi to big dogs after his encounters with the neighbor dog too. As you know, we do Rally around big dogs all the time, and I need to be able to walk him around and through the other dogs, and have him feel comfortable enough that he can focus on me. It took a while, but he's comfortable with all dogs as long as they are quiet and well behaved now.

He does NOT like dogs who get rough, even in play, though, and that's fine with me. He will come running back to me if he feels like someone is playing too rough. Depending on the circumstances, I will either just let him hang by my feet if the other dog takes the hint, or I'll pick him up if it looks like the other dog is not going to back off.


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Scary!!!! So glad he is OK -- and you, too.

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Be sure you re-socialize him to be around big dogs... not to run up and play, but that a safe distance is safe. Otherwise you will have fear aggression in your future, which only makes more scary dog-dog confrontations more likely.
Kipper acts like nothing happened. I think I was more affected then he was. I have a pretty large dog (Sadie is 65-70 lbs)that he plays with constantly so that shouldn't be a problem. I told her that was an instant she was ok to break the fence to rescue Kipper (due to size of yard we are on electric fence but were waiting for Kipper to get to 10 lbs before putting him on it) - yeah she basically rolled her eyes at me as if to say "whatever, I'm not getting shocked" lol
I'm just happyhe is fine and has learned that not all bigger dogs are as friendly as his is.
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