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Need Advice- -Pure White Havanese's

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I am new to this forum, as our family searches for a new Havanese puppy to add to our household. This seems like a wonderful group, with so much great advice.

We were thinking of getting a pure white Havanese, but, one breeder told me that a pure white Havanese would be hard to keep clean (which I knew would be tough), but, she also mentioned that "although white is pretty but it's difficult to keep clean especially around the eyes with this breed."

Our family was interested in this wonderful breed...but, didn't expect to have the eyes like this, as we see with a Poodle breed. Does anyone have any advice to this....should our family look towards another color...which is better to cover the eye area darkening look?

Thank you for your time and advice. Have a great day!
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From what I've read on this site tear staining has a lot to do with diet. It may be that your choice of a white Hav comes with the commitment to certain dietary requirements to control the staining.
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I think eye staining is a problem with ALL small white dogs. (their beards stain too) It is worst when they are teething, then a lot of them grow out of it. of the ones that have on-going problems, sometimes it's food, sometimes it's water supply, sometimes it's a yeast growth, and sometimes you just never know. Some lines definitely seem more prone to it than others, so if you insist on a white puppy, look at the faces of the parents to give you a clue whther they are likely to stain as adults.

That said,color is the VERY LAST reason to pick a puppy. Your priorities should be health and temperament, not necessarily in that order. Follow that with how and where the puppies are raised, followed distantly by gender if you really care (I didn't, and got a puppy quicker as a result). Only if ALL things are equal, and they almost never are, should you worry about color.

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I wanted a Havanese who was dark around the eye area for just this reason! I had a maltese and hated the eye staining. Now what I found with a Havanese is that it's hard to find a dog who's face is dark and stays dark! Yogi was a red sable when I got her, now she's cream colored. And when I put a deposit down on Boo, I got the last pick of the litter, and ended up with another white dog. Tear staining is a big problem for Boo, and the reason's for it can be numerous, so it's quite the problem!!! Good luck!

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Great advice from everyone who has helped! You're right...health and temperment are #1.

As this is our first time out in a search for a Hav pup- -I will keep this in mind...I will be posting for more advice...Thanks! Have a great day!

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To be honest, it drove me crazy at first (Baxter is cream and apricot). I obsessed with trying to keep the gunk off and getting the stain clean. Now, I give his eyes them a good soaking with a warm cloth every week when I give him a bath, try to pick out anything that looks like it might be bothering him during the week, and then leave him alone. Lots of time, the hair around his nose fluffs up and you can't see the staining much. I worry more about allergies or whatever might be causing the tearing than I do the staining. (He likes me much more now that I'm more laid back!)

If I was going to show, I would be more aggressive about it, and I may actually try Angel's Eyes at some point, but I agree with others -- pick the puppy you love.
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Thanks for your replies...what do people who have Hav's think about keeping the puppy/dog trimmed with short hair- -the puppy-look? It looks as if it's easier to manage...I don't want to be frowned upon, LOL!!
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I think eye staining is a problem with ALL small white dogs. (their beards stain too) It is worst when they are teething, then a lot of them grow out of it. of the ones that have on-going problems, sometimes it's food, sometimes it's water supply, sometimes it's a yeast growth, and sometimes you just never know. Some lines definitely seem more prone to it than others, so if you insist on a white puppy, look at the faces of the parents to give you a clue whther they are likely to stain as adults.

That said,color is the VERY LAST reason to pick a puppy. Your priorities should be health and temperament, not necessarily in that order. Follow that with how and where the puppies are raised, followed distantly by gender if you really care (I didn't, and got a puppy quicker as a result). Only if ALL things are equal, and they almost never are, should you worry about color.

The "best"color is the color of the puppy who is the best fit for your family!
^ this.

I agree. My two maltese live 80% of their adult lives so far without bad tear stains. I always get comment in their youtube channel from different people asking me how I keep their faces so white. I, in fact, don't do anything magical. I only keep the eye area clean 'n dry. a small wet towel and another dry one is all I use once per day to clean n dry. That said, there comes some days where they would get tear stain suddenly (20% of their adult lives so far) - this current period is the latest exaple after they got an allergy reaction from a spray that was applied in our house (not only tear stains, but their eye rims went so itchy too). their eye rim is all better. tear stains is going to go soon I am sure. It is just a matter if finding out what causes the stain for some pups. Overall, with my two, I am not have major issues with tear stain, thankfully.

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I keep Momo trimmed/shaved down, let it grow out until I get problems with matting and then shave down again. I actually think she looks cute, but, then, I think she looks cute, period.

I'm pretty sure she could care less either way, as long as she is loved.

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Your puppies/dogs are adorable!! Thanks for your help...I can't wait to join the Hav family and join in on all the other discussions that I will need help with, LOL!!
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