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Would you buy puppy with European father? CERF issue, perhaps...

We've been looking for a while now for a puppy. I've found one that I think is darling, and the breeder seems extremely knowledgeable about the Havanese breed. The father of the puppy is from Europe. Also, the CERF test on the OFFA site shows this: D3a-Iris, persistent pupillary membranes. Would this be a deal-killer for you? Thanks for any advice, as we are very new to this!
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Anyone? Trying to make a decision really soon. Don't worry about offending me, if this doesn't sound good to you... Just trying to get all my facts before making a 15+ year decision! Many thanks!
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not sure, I have no idea what those findings mean.. .hopefully someone will chime in SOON! how old is the pup?

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I've never heard of this, either. The puppy is about 5 weeks old. It's hard to know what is okay and what is a potential problem... Just want to make a good decision! Thanks for responding, TilliesMom!
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sure! i hope someone can help you out!!

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I am not a Havanese breeder and hopefully some will chime in, I do know what a PPM is and with a 4th type the dog may have a an opacity causing a visual impairment. PPM's that are iris to iris do not cause a clinical problem for the dog, but should be a consideration in breeding stock. You really need to find out more about the dog and express your concerns to the breeder.

I have a dog that has PRA and even today the breeders of Lhasa do not generally cerf, so I will not get another. Even though my dog has done well it is very scary to think of having another blind dog or visually impaired, they are a lot of work and heartache. You really need to be informed and educated with your decision.

Although I am somewhat biased about eye problems because of my experience, I urge you to proceed with caution. The whole reason for cerf is so breeders as well as the public can check the lines and make an informed decision. Hope this helps.

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I'm no expert either but will share my experience with having had a dog with eye problems. We had an English Bulldog pup who developed juvenile cataracts before the age of 1. We authorized surgery but she failed the final test just prior to the operation. For the remainder of her short life she required daily drops and ointments. It was not a good situation but we loved her and did the best we could for her. She grew increasingly frustrated around children and would rush up to them because she couldn't see them, which in turn scared the kids. She passed at 3 years of other problems common in the breed.

In fact, after 30 years of owning EB, I was sooo very careful to research for a breed that had fewer health issues. English Bulldogs are money pits. Actually, any dog with a chronic health issue is a money pit because once they are yours, you are committed if you are a responsible dog owner. There are some wonderful breeders on here who care deeply about maintaining clean lines. That's who I'd be talking to if it were me. Best of luck to you and welcome!

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Bumping this to keep it upfront for the breeders to chime in.

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I honestly don't know what that means. I don't know how many lines are perfect and without any issues on OFFA, maybe someone will chime in that knows more about this particular issue, did the internet search turn up much?
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I too wish someone would answer this who has knowledge of the problem. It is an interesting question...thanks for posting it!

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