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Saddle or silvering gene?

Curious about what is going on! Sasha's muzzle looks black at the moment, but when I part the hair I see that all the roots are some kind of light color (not sure if it's silver or cream)! Her cute face will clearly become lighter ...but what do you think..is this silvering or saddle gene? Is it even possible to tell at this point? How do you tell the difference between silvering and saddle gene?
The rest of the black coat on her body is black all the way down to the roots.
Can't wait to see what she is up to . Fedja never changed a bit so I'm really excited to see all the color changes in real, and not only from the stories lol.
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i think she is going to be black&silver and that's veery pretty. But here is very good link for hava colors

http://www.havanesecolors.com/rainbow.html

Roki changed a lot, but now starting to regain the intensity of red sable. Her2 are some pix.
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Hej Marina, your Roki is beautiful!!! His coat looks great! Nice grooming :-)
I'm familiar with the site, and Sasha will color wise probably be black/silver/cream (or some sort of silver throughout which I find beautiful btw...depending on how much copies of the silvering gene she caries..one or double), but I was more curious about the gene that is at play here. How to tell the difference between silvering and saddle gene. From the site:
SADDLE - Some Havanese carry a SADDLE gene. This is usually a puppy born black with tan/silver points, where the coat colour starts fading from the front towards the back, stopping around the shoulder area, leaving the front, face, head and neck lighter and the shoulders, back and rear darker. Similar in appearance to the pattern on a Yorkshire or Silky Terrier.
This sound exactly like what I see happening with Sasha.
Silvering would take place on the whole body if I understand it correctly. But does that happen all over the body from the early age on or goes the same route as saddle....first head etc, and later on down the body? I just don't understand how one tells which gene is at play?


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Here is another link with a lot of pictures. You have some pix od saddle havanese, but I don't think that sasha is going that way!


http://www.felici-animali.be/PdC_en_colours.htm


I cannot wait to see her at six months of age!
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Me too! Familiar with that one as well lol (Dutch version available to us, yeah), but thank you. Difficult to find a new information site that a die-hard havanese fans don't know about lol ;-).

BTW: Look at Jamaica at the bottom of the page http://www.havanesecolors.com/colours12.html . What a beauty! I wouldn't mind for Sasha to end up silver like that lol.


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Yes, we are completely crazy people, special breed of dog owners! Completely crazy about our furbabies! I have like 150 havanese sites favourites on my laptop!

It is not the theme but it is cute saying. I found it last night: "All angels were busy, so they sent me a havanese!"
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If I'm correct this would be a good example of hav with a saddle gene. Meet Rico . I'm totally in love with this guy (let Fedja not hear me say this lol).
His page http://www.szafi.hu/domoszloi/havane...Rico-a-uk.html
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Yes, we are completely crazy people, special breed of dog owners! Completely crazy about our furbabies! I have like 150 havanese sites favourites on my laptop!
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It is not the theme but it is cute saying. I found it last night: "All angels were busy, so they sent me a havanese!"
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I have no idea about the silvering or saddle gene, but I see that Sasha is in a bike basket, how did that go? I have one for Timmy, but although it's a mild winter here it's still to cold for a bike ride. I hope he likes it since it will be fun to take him out plus it will save me some gas if I can bike ride with him for my errands. My kids told me I better not ride around with Timmy on my bike since I'll look crazy, gotta love kids.

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She is doing great with the basket. Just do it! Fedja was a year old when I took him for his first bike ride, and he got used to it in minutes. He soon learned that basket means fun :-). We then usually go to the beach or things like that. Put Timmy in the basket for just a short trip to a playing field. He will love it in no time!
It's cold for Sasha to go far away at the moment, so I just take her to a playing field around the corner. She already knows we're going to play when she sees the bike.

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