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i know im supposed to post this in the agility fourm, but it wouldent get as many veiws or replies, but anyways...

miller is doing amazing in agility so far. he can do jumps, tunnles and has sit stay and down commands mastered. Today we built a pause table and a aframe. the pause table was easy for him because he go's to a begginers/puppy agility class once a week. There he learns jumps, tunnles, table, and ladder, also dogwalk. no aframe yet. but when i set up the aframe after finishing building it today, he went nuts. up one side, down the other. spin around and do it again. i was trying to run a course, but if it didnt start with the aframe. he would make a beeline for it. any suggestions? and dont worrie about the jumps, there VERY low to the ground, no more that 3 or 4 inches, and the trainer said that those are fine.

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He is very young to be doing any agility at all, let alone putting courses together. It is extremely common, even with a dog who is really agility age, for them to fixate on the newest obstacle that has been introduced.

Do not reward for doing any obstacle that you haven't asked him to do. Reward him OFTEN for staying right on your finger. Pause often (after each obstacle is not too often) and reward him for staying with you.

Introducing the obstacles is acually the easiest part of learning agility... It's the handling skills that take a lot longer!


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I'll try to take, and post, a video of Pam working with Brio on the first stages, as soon as I get the chance. If a long time in days goes by before you see it, remind me-I have a lot of works in progress right now.
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The A-frame is Jack's favorite, too. He goes to the top and stays there. It is too wide for me to reach up and over to him. Jack mocks me the entire time.

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The A-frame is Jack's favorite, too. He goes to the top and stays there. It is too wide for me to reach up and over to him. Jack mocks me the entire time.
Pam Sowa's Leila used to do that too. That Pam is short too, and she couldn't get Leila down either. Maybe it's a Havanese thing.

To make it worse, there is a puppy class going on in the other ring during our agility class, so LOTS of good stuff to watch over the wall from the top of the A-frame or dog walk.


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The A-frame is Jack's favorite, too. He goes to the top and stays there. It is too wide for me to reach up and over to him. Jack mocks me the entire time.
After 10 months of agility training, Gracie started that, too, and everyone in class thought she was so cute. Everyone but me. My trainer showed me how to roll a treat down the backside of the A-frame to get her moving fast over the top. Only took a couple of times with treats before she got it.

More important to do is to make sure they are hitting those yellow zones so when they pick up speed as they become more proficient, they won't fault on these contacts. I've been taught to use targets (a plastic lid with a treat on it) and associate it with the command bottom.

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After 10 months of agility training, Gracie started that, too, and everyone in class thought she was so cute. Everyone but me. My trainer showed me how to roll a treat down the backside of the A-frame to get her moving fast over the top. Only took a couple of times with treats before she got it.

More important to do is to make sure they are hitting those yellow zones so when they pick up speed as they become more proficient, they won't fault on these contacts. I've been taught to use targets (a plastic lid with a treat on it) and associate it with the command bottom.
Running contacts are important for our guys in a number of ways. Of course you don't want the faults, but a little dog jumping from above the contact zone is pretty high up and risks injury. And many experienced competitors don't teach 2 on 2 off to longer backed breeds because it's too hard on the back. The problem I had with Kodi for a while was that he wouldn't ride the teeter all the way down... He'd leap off when still in mid air. Not only a BIG no-no, but he scared ME to death every time he did it! We had to slow the teeter WAY down for a while to cure THAT one!


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we have lowerd the aframe down, so it has less of a "mom, look at me, im higher up than you, this is fun" kinda feel, so it only a foot and a half off the ground, also, when we built the aframe, it was pouring rain, and we didnt have paint, so we carpeted it, but i am well aware of the contact zones and i make shure he walkes the last part till he is in 2 on 2 off and click and treat.
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When I built A-frames, I built three different sizes. One regular size, one half size, but normal angle, and one short one with shallow angles (not including the little one we use for Puppy Preschool). I knew I wouldn't be there all the time to change one back and forth when Pam wanted to. It was really easier for me to stick three fixed ones together than build one that hinges. It's been good for when one is ready to move up, all you have to do is go to the next one.

I also built a half-sized dog walk, and a regulation sized one.

It's simplified using the equipment a lot.

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Ya, our aframe is only 5 feet per side, so changing the angle with the hinges and chains i have now isnt a problam. but that is a really good idea!
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