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Crufts disqualifying dogs

Have you folks seen this?

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4199/23/5/3

Good for them! I wish they went further and insisted on a vet check for ALL winners. I was very surprised to see that CKC weren't on the list of dogs required to be checked. I wonder if it's because their problems aren't as obvious to the eye.


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I saw it, and I think it is COMPLETELY outrageous! NO ONE but the judge should have the power to disqualify a dog from the ring. The KC is NOT the breeding police, they should stick to doing what they do, which is putting on a dog show. How would you like it if you were at one of the biggest shows in the world and won the breed, and then the show vet DQ'd you from competing in group because in HIS opinion your dog had a bad patella when your vet already certified they were fine...and there was NOTHING you could do about it? Not even an appeal process in place! I think this is GARBAGE!!! If they want to do that, then they should have EVERY entry bring a vet certificate BEFORE judging or they don't go in the ring to begin with. Doing it after the fact and then DQ'ing the dog from the group competition? Just plain wrong!

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Not sure when in the process it should happen, but I guess after years in the sport horse world, I don't find it the last bit outrageous that the animals being exhibited should be sound by veterinary standards, on the day of competition. At all high-level sport horse competitions, the horses must pass the vet check. In eventing, they must do it twice. at the start of the competition, and again between the cross country and stadium jumping.

I think the only thing that really bothers me is that they singled out specific breeds. It seems to me that if they are going to institute a policy like this, it should be the same for everyone.


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Karen, I agree with you, I think they should not single out any breed they should test all breeds if they test. I think that might be a more of an American attitude.

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I was just reading the vet's report - it's posted on facebook - looks like they dq'd for bilateral ectropian.

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I was just reading the vet's report - it's posted on facebook - looks like they dq'd for bilateral ectropian.
Interesting. I wonder how a judge could put up a dog with bilateral ectropion!

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From what I read, the dq vet was not an eye specialist - and the dog in question had cleared a eye exam previous to this.

My only personal experience is in danes - I had a puppy whose "regular" vet thought had entropian - I had CERF'd the littermates, but this one was not local to me, so I had them take him for a CERF exam - the eyes were fine. So there does seem to be a level of expertise necessary in making decisions...

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Since I did not read the report I am guessing it is the eyes, some breeds have a certain amout of this, Shih Tzu's for one, some Vet's can miss it thinking it's ok, this condition can lead to dry eye, cherry eye, infection, and if untreated blindness and it is passed on. I really believe there are responsible breeders that are trying to breed away from it. If these dogs do infact have this condition it is wrong for breeding.

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http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7ubTCBN_ l1E

This is a link to the youtube video of the interview with the owner of the Clumber

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http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7ubTCBN_ l1E

This is a link to the youtube video of the interview with the owner of the Clumber
The link didn't work. But I thought it was the Bull Dog and Peke who were DQ'd, not the Clumber?


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