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Question I think ive found a breeder

Ok so ive been doing lotsa research and i think im going to buy my havanese from Sheryls Must Havs in NY. heres the link for the website. http://sherylsmusthavs.com/home is it a good place? thanks!
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Not a good breeder. Maybe someone else will recommend a good one in your area. You can also go to the Delaware Valley Havanese. They have a breeder referral page.

Please also read the post about what to look for in a breeder. I think it's on the top of the home page of this forum.





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It does say they have CERF, but doesn't mention any other testing...?
seems like it COULD be a decent breeder, BUT I HIGHLY recommend going and visiting before making any commitment!!
Although she breeds Havanese/Lhasa mixes and that concerns me... have you gone and visited any other breeders??

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Nooooo! They breed Hav/apso's? Run.

Please take the time to read how to find a reputable/ethical breeder. I didn't even get past the first page and saw many red flags at that website, check this thread out:

http://www.havaneseforum.com/showthread.php?t=16008

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Lhasa/Havanese mixes? No, not a good breeder. Good breeders have a very specific goal in mind, the breed standard. How is a breeder going to work towards that with two completely different standards? IMHO there are a number of reputable breeders in your area for selecting a good breeder, you can refer to the home page for red flags.
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ok how about this place http://twinshavanese.com/
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i asked sheryls must havs questions and this is what she answered me: All of my puppies leave here with their first set of puppy vaccines, at least 3 worming treatments, their AKC Limited Registration application, a one year health guarantee against severe life threatening hereditary defects, a lifetime of support, their first harness & leash, a blanket with their mom and litter mates scent, toys, treats, a starter supply of food, a couple other surprises, and most of all...pre-spoiled, pre-socialized, and pre-loved. I do require my new puppy owners to sign a purchase agreement to guarantee that none of my puppies will ever end up in a shelter or dog pound facility. After someone chooses their puppy, I send them a supply list to help them prepare for their new puppy's arrival. I even offer boarding services at $20 per day so that my puppies don't have to be kenneled when their owners need to go out of town. My puppies are never forgotten after they leave here and my new puppy owners become part of my extended family. I truly love what I do.
I think that she is a good breeder, even though she breeds hava/apsos.
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So, I'm confused. Do you think she's great because she gives you a bunch of stuff?

Red flags:
1. Parents are only cerf'd. There are other tests that you should be looking for that they do not do.
2. They only sell puppies on a limited registration basis. Makes me super wonder if they know their pups don't conform to standard.
3. They don't say anything about showing their dogs. That's how breeders 'test' the quality of their parent dogs.
4. They breed hava-apsos. Even though that doesn't sound like a big deal, it really is, because it shows that their first interest is making money off of 'cute puppies and mixes'. If they were truly interested in the quality of the breed, they wouldn't breed mixes.

And that's only by skimming thru the site. Check out the thread here that helps you ask all the right questions and what kind of answers you can generally expect from the reputable breeders.
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ok how about this place http://twinshavanese.com/
They say absolutely nothing about health testing of the parents, nor do they mention showing their dogs. "Championship lines" mean nothing at all. You can find puppy mill dogs with "championship lines". What matters is that the breeder is showing their breeding stock to prove their quality before breeding them.

I would look further or ask a LOT of questions.


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So, I'm confused. Do you think she's great because she gives you a bunch of stuff?

Red flags:
1. Parents are only cerf'd. There are other tests that you should be looking for that they do not do.
2. They only sell puppies on a limited registration basis. Makes me super wonder if they know their pups don't conform to standard.
3. They don't say anything about showing their dogs. That's how breeders 'test' the quality of their parent dogs.
4. They breed hava-apsos. Even though that doesn't sound like a big deal, it really is, because it shows that their first interest is making money off of 'cute puppies and mixes'. If they were truly interested in the quality of the breed, they wouldn't breed mixes.

And that's only by skimming thru the site. Check out the thread here that helps you ask all the right questions and what kind of answers you can generally expect from the reputable breeders.
The highlighted is the only thing I don't agree with. MANY reputable breeders will not sell their puppies as breeding/show stock unless they know the people REALLY well and have the experience to take the job of showing and breeding completely seriously.

Also, even the one test they say they do on the parents (CERF) is not a one-time test. It is a test that should be done annually on all breeding stock.


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