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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-15-2012, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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Two Dog Dilemma

I got my first two dogs back in 1996, they were the best of buddies. My twenty five pound spitz died in March 2010 from kidney disease leaving my Lab / Irish Setter alone, six month later we added a Havanese to our family. I always have a petsitter stay at our house when we go out of town, we also have an eighteen year old cat and a bird. However, my twelve pound Havanese travels everywhere with us since he is small enough to fly in the plane cabin with us.
My Lab does fine left with the petsitter because he has always done that and I don't think he misses our Havanese because he did not bond with him as he had bonded with our Spitz.
Here is my dilemma, my Lab is sixteen and not doing so welll lately. When he is no longer around I would like to get another dog. I love taking our Havanese on our vacations but my husband said he draws the line at one dog, so even if I get another small dog I can not bring them both. I really, really want a second dog. A Havanese is out because I couldn't bring one and leave one. I was thinking a poodle, either a standard or a mini. I don't want to leave the second dog alone in the house with the petsitter and since I can't bring him on trips I thought I would leave him with my parents or when they can't watch him leave him at daycare. I worry that taking one and leaving one will be hard on the dogs or if I do it from the start will they adjust? Does anyone have a similar situation, where they take their Hav everywhere, but have to leave a bigger dog behind when they travel?

Please let me know how it's working for you if you are in a similar situation. I know I could keep life simple and not get a second dog, but that will be hard for me I am a total dog addict.

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Hi, when you said.."A Havanese is out because I couldn't bring one and leave one." I was wondering why? Nothing wrong with leaving one ,especially the new one with a sitter. Just train her/him from day one to become familiar with a sitter. Dogs don't worry about what's "fair" . You'll be fine. All you Hav to do is convince hubby. Bribe him. Sex is a good bargaining chip. LOL

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Dave is right about the Hav not knowing "fair" but it will break your heart to leave "the baby" behind!!! I would give it a lot of thought before adding a complication like that to your life. I dearly love McGee and would never leave him behind but it sure is a lot more trouble traveling with two - even in the car. Get a kitten instead!!!

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Dave is right about the Hav not knowing "fair" but it will break your heart to leave "the baby" behind!!! I would give it a lot of thought before adding a complication like that to your life. I dearly love McGee and would never leave him behind but it sure is a lot more trouble traveling with two - even in the car. Get a kitten instead!!!
You are so right it would break my heart. I guess that is why I think about a standard or mini poodle they are to big to fly on the plane so it eliminates my guilt about leaving them behind. Which of course makes no sense because whether the dog is ten pounds or seventy pounds the dog has no idea or understanding about plane policies regarding pet travel.

There is no easy answer, my heart wants a second dog and my head knows, it doesn't make sense.
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I have never taken Kodi with me when I fly. While I could probably stuff him under the seat, he's on the large side for a Hav, and I don't think it would be fair to him on a long flight. (and if it's a shorter distance, we are much more likely to take our travel trailer and drive) I found a wonderful person who does in-home dog boarding. Kodi ADORES her, and loves the opportunity to play with her dogs. I feel completely comfortable leaving him with her, knowing that he will not only be well cared for, but actually have a great time while he's there! Maybe, even before you get another dog, you could find a situation where you would be comfortable leaving the at-home dog. There might come a time when you want to take a vacation where NO dogs are allowed, and you could then feel good about leaving both of them behind!


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There is no easy answer, my heart wants a second dog and my head knows, it doesn't make sense.
I've only been a "pet parent" for about 3 months now. I adopted my Havanese Sergio at the age of 2. He weighs about 11 pounds. I bring him with me every where I can. He would much rather be with me than left behind, and he travels well. I just purchased a blue backpack soft sided carrier when I realized I can take him on the Washington D.C. metro rail and bus. He brings smiles everywhere we go!!

My advice to you, and my support, is to not worry so much about it for now. Your other dog hasn't passed yet. Just enjoy being in the moment with your dogs now, and decide what to do later when the time arrives.

I often wonder, no offense, just playing armchair psychologist, if retired people experience empty nest syndrome and to avoid spending more time with their spouses, they want dogs to fill up that void.

Or, maybe they don't realize how much energy Havanese dogs have and how much attention and praise and time they crave from their humans. They think another dog will "entertain" the one they already have.

Please just think about why you want another dog, and make your decision with both your heart and your head.

I think your relationship with your husband is very important, and I don't think sex should be used as a bribe (or food).

This is just my 2 cents. I am neither married, nor an empty nester, nor a parent, so it's just my observations.

Also, I edited this to add, that I don't really know whether you're retired or an empty nester. Havanese seem to be very popular with people who are older and retired. It takes a lot of time to groom Havanese in full coat.

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Michele,

I think Dave was joking about the sex bribe.

No generalizations about retired folks, please.

My husband and I are retired and we both adore our furry ones. We are active and can easily accommodate the needs of our 3 Havanese, ages 3, 5, and 7. They play a very important role in our lives, and are not here so that we don't have to relate to each other.
Although they do provide canine company for each other, WE are the primary objects of their affection. The addition of each dog, was well thought out by us.
Although the neighbors and others probably think we are nuts. LOL.

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I do know that my sister has a wonderful pet sitter, (dog goes to sitter's home) and Baxter is happy as a clam to go there..he gets home cooked foods that the sitter feeds her dogs instead of the kibble he gets at home...and the sitter's husband loves Baxter. Since Baxter is small, he gets to sleep on the bed..doesn't hurt that sitter's husband loves Baxter..lol..
Just want you to know that if you really find the right place, your dog will look upon it as a "vacation" also. You may someday have to leave both at home for some reason...i.e, funeral, etc...and it would be wonderful to be comfortable with the arrangements for the dogs if that should happen.
Have to say some of the busiest younger people I know in Havs have 3 and 4 and all in show coat...they show and do agility with them...and the retired people I know probably have Havs because many breeders want owners who will be at home with the dogs all day...

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Dave is right about the Hav not knowing "fair" but it will break your heart to leave "the baby" behind!!! I would give it a lot of thought before adding a complication like that to your life. I dearly love McGee and would never leave him behind but it sure is a lot more trouble traveling with two - even in the car. Get a kitten instead!!!
I second the getting a kitten advice! A cat and a Hav can really be BBFs. Someone posted a video not too long ago of their cat and Hav wrestling. That happens at least 2x a day in our house. Not sure if you'd had cats before, but it's totally possible to get a cat with a "dog"-like personality - coming when called, playing fetch, greeting you at the door, etc. And while you can take a cat on a trip, they are much more upset to be away from their home territory than any dog. It definitely assuages the guilt a bit when leaving them home.
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