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yearly shot clarification needed

I've been a pet owner my entire life and have been diligent about getting the yearly shots our vet required. This Forum and an article in a magazine changed that last year when we told our vet we'd be skipping the routine shots and only got the required rabies.

I've bookmarked a couple of articles with the argument for this new protocol concerning shots but they're way too long to print out and hand over to our vet. Is there some study or official protocol of a respected organization that I can print off and give to our vet? I don't mind printing off 10 pages but more than that is too easy for her to just throw away.

I'm a by-the-book person so not following the vet's requirements is out of my comfort zone. I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly.

DaniGirl is 11 and last year she did not get her shots except rabies; Bella is 5 and the same goes for her. Maybe it's my imagination but they aren't bothered by the ear scratching and tonsil problems like before--and the vet couldn't understand why both dogs had similar issues.

Question: can I go this year again without getting shots for them--and without checking titer levels?
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Good for you Nancy, here is the guy who has done this research. http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm Too bad we have to educate these vets. This is almost common knowledge these days and yet some vets don' t wish to consider it , are not aware of it, or simply don't want to give up their cash cow. I'm assuming you have the articles by Dodds and Schultz that have been posted here numerous times.? I won't get into recommending for people. Re read their stuff and decide for yourself. Good going. Don't be shy. And a wealth of info here http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/
And here one on titer testing. http://www.synbiotics.com/Products/C...Discussion.pdf

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I've been a pet owner my entire life and have been diligent about getting the yearly shots our vet required. This Forum and an article in a magazine changed that last year when we told our vet we'd be skipping the routine shots and only got the required rabies.

I've bookmarked a couple of articles with the argument for this new protocol concerning shots but they're way too long to print out and hand over to our vet. Is there some study or official protocol of a respected organization that I can print off and give to our vet? I don't mind printing off 10 pages but more than that is too easy for her to just throw away.

I'm a by-the-book person so not following the vet's requirements is out of my comfort zone. I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly.

DaniGirl is 11 and last year she did not get her shots except rabies; Bella is 5 and the same goes for her. Maybe it's my imagination but they aren't bothered by the ear scratching and tonsil problems like before--and the vet couldn't understand why both dogs had similar issues.

Question: can I go this year again without getting shots for them--and without checking titer levels?
According to my vet, you can go at least 3 years after the last shot without even having to bother with titers. At 11, it is very likely that DaniGirl will never need another vaccination to remain protected. Even Bella has probably had enough, though I'd probably do titers starting 3 years from her last boosters.


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So, does this start after their first shots, or do you have to do several yrs of shots first?
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My vet said after their 1 year boosters. That said, I know people who are drawing titers without even doing those 1 year boosters and finding good immunity.


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Good for you Nancy, here is the guy who has done this research. http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm Too bad we have to educate these vets. This is almost common knowledge these days and yet some vets don' t wish to consider it , are not aware of it, or simply don't want to give up their cash cow. I'm assuming you have the articles by Dodds and Schultz that have been posted here numerous times.? I won't get into recommending for people. Re read their stuff and decide for yourself. Good going. Don't be shy. And a wealth of info here http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/
And here one on titer testing. http://www.synbiotics.com/Products/C...Discussion.pdf
I will re-read those articles. I'm a romantic and think people go into careers to serve humanity but my realistic side says that money under scores many decisions in life--vet, human doctor, etc.

The big fear with me lies with Parvo. Is that like the human flu shots that get tweeked every year to make it more effective? Or do they give the same Parvo shot year after year.

Our first vet in this northern part of the Dallas area was holistic so he wasn't into all the shots. But in order to increase his income, he charged huge fees such as charging a 12-month price for 6 months worth of heart worm prevention tabs. When we got a $750 bill for Bella being spayed, we knew we had to look else where. Even after that we went to him for many months before switching. Ah, there is that "money" decision in life that I spoke of!
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The big fear with me lies with Parvo. Is that like the human flu shots that get tweeked every year to make it more effective? Or do they give the same Parvo shot year after year.
My understanding is that, although no one wants their dog to get sick, Parvo is not the deadly disease for adult dogs that it is for puppies. It can make them sick, but won't kill an otherwise healthy dog. Also, as far as I know, this is something you can titer for too... It's not like kennel cough.


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Good for you Nancy, here is the guy who has done this research. http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm Too bad we have to educate these vets. This is almost common knowledge these days and yet some vets don' t wish to consider it , are not aware of it, or simply don't want to give up their cash cow. I'm assuming you have the articles by Dodds and Schultz that have been posted here numerous times.? I won't get into recommending for people. Re read their stuff and decide for yourself. Good going. Don't be shy. And a wealth of info here http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/
And here one on titer testing. http://www.synbiotics.com/Products/C...Discussion.pdf
I put this email aside for a while and today when I wanted to open the cedar bay vet article, my computer refuses to go to that site. I've tried and tried and don't know what the problem could be but I'll try to circumvent it some way. In case I can't (very likely), do you know why this could be happening or do you know of some other way to get to the article? Thanks!
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I put this email aside for a while and today when I wanted to open the cedar bay vet article, my computer refuses to go to that site. I've tried and tried and don't know what the problem could be but I'll try to circumvent it some way. In case I can't (very likely), do you know why this could be happening or do you know of some other way to get to the article? Thanks!
Which article are you having trouble reaching.?

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http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm[/url]

This web site. It's the one my computer refuses to open.
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