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Baby teeth, neutering, and housebreaking

We took our puppy to the vet today for his 16 week shots. This is a new vet to us, and frankly won't be going back because I didn't get a good feeling from him. BUT, vet said there's no way in ____ that he's 16 weeks old. He thinks he's more like 8 weeks. I don't know what incentive the breeder would have to lie about his age so it doesn't make sense. Vet said at 16 weeks his baby incisors should be taller and loose. They are small and tight.

We obviously need to have him neutered. Vet wanted him to get done ASAP. 4 months seems young to me in the first place, but if he was 8 weeks old that seems waaaay too young. Am I just being silly about my baby?

Any housebreaking tips? I've fostered much older pups and adult dogs and usually had them housebroken in a few days with minimal accidents. Our dog will NOT go outside even when we're out there for hours after eating. He comes in and immediately beelines to a random spot on the carpet. He's crated at night, and in the small laundry room while I"m at work (5-6 hours away). He uses the peepee pads in there. If I sit in there with him, he'll go. He won't use the pad by the doors, and if I put a pad on the carpet in one of his "spots" he moves the pad to pee there. Will not pee on a pad outside either. He poops everywhere too. I know we've only had him a week but we're making zero progress. I'm not punishing him and praise him when he goes on the pad.

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are you crate training him? keeping him confined until he pees/poops?? Havs are not 'big dogs' and need a totally different mentality from you to house train them... you have to be patient and set them up to succeed!!

and I think you need a new vet!! often times havs teeth develop later than other (bigger) breeds.
Do you fully trust your breeder? hopefully so, I'm sure she could give you all kinds of advice!!
Welcome to the forum and congratulations!!

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Sorry, I tend to ramble so much and ended up cutting out the relevant parts! I am using a crate. He stays in there at night and while we eat (he licks the kids toes!). I usually only work for 4 hours but can sometimes be as much as 6-8 hours away from home if I get caught up with anything. So while I"m at work, he stays in the laundry room which is small and where his crate stays. I just open the crate door, put down the peepee pad and give him toys. If I knew I'd be gone 4 hours, I'd crate him then, but I don't want him crated 16-18 hours daily. He uses the pad 100% in there. So I guess it's really an issue when he comes out of the crate, where you know for a fact he's got to go badly and his bladder must be gigantic for his wee little body! So if I sit in the laundry room with him, he'll go on the pad. But there's all the other times that he needs to go where he just sneaks away for 2 seconds and he's gone somewhere. I am staying very consistent... but he is too!

And as far as the breeder goes, no I don't trust her for anything. He is the product of shoddy backyard breeding and not much better than a puppy mill. We were looking for a havanese and it wasn't in the budget at this time. This one just kind of fell in my lap through a grapevine of people. He is a shorthair on his face and the rest of him has a lot of hair. Not sure what he'll turn into. NOT a show/breeding by any means. I consider him kind of halfway between a rescue and a purchase. We paid $100 for him to cover her expenses. He was living with his parents in a chain link outdoor run with concrete floor and it's been in the upper 80's each day.

And the vet - no we won't be going back! My vet that I've used in the past has retired and this was the vet that bought her practice. We've been out of dogs for about 5 years so we've just got to find a good one for the next go around.
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