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Trainer said Lucky should wear a collar

And no, I don't mean just for walks, but all day around the house. I take it off for bedtime since a collar in the crate sounds potentially hazardous to me, but I'm noticing a difference in behavior. Maybe it was the one training session we had last night where we learned some good things to teach Lucky (it was an hour which was way too long for Lucky but he loved it in the beginning-especially the treats which were of course just kibble but you would have thought were liver) but this idea that it's a safety option (i.e. it really is easier to catch hold of him when needed than without one) made sense to me actually and although he stood for a while waiting for me to remove it when we came in from our 99th unsuccessful potty trip outside (for this week), and shook it around for a bit on his neck, it seems to be calming him. Do you think it's a reminder that we're in charge? Am I over thinking this? Any other experiences with/perspectives on collars? It looks pretty cute and his tags jingling are frankly another good thing. You can actually here him underfoot. Mmmm.....

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Did the trainer say why to keep it on? There must be a purpose or he wouldn't have said it! We don't keep collars on except when we're taking them out for walks, etc. but I would like to know what is his reasoning.

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She felt the collar made "catching" the pup, and she did this behavior "gotcha," easier-if you needed him to stop him from doing this or that (e.g. he's running to onions you've spilled on the floor and they're poisonous so you need to hold him back-she used that example) or wanted quickly to add the lead for training or going out...seems sensible on the one hand; on the other, not wedded to it if there's a down side. I know they have delicate necks, but ours is a very lightweight fabric...also has his registration and name tags on it. If he slipped out the door or something, might be good to have. No?

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Good idea especially for a young puppy. I have to admit I do worry about them slipping out the door without their collar and ID on even though they are micro-chipped. A phone call is a lot easier!

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I'm not a fan of collars on all the time. I think a person would really have to keep an eye on them every second to make sure they don't catch it on something and hang themselves.

With these dogs you can always grab them if need be as they have a lot of hair. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I never leave collars on, plus for show dogs they create matts and break off hair so I use collars just for training, otherwise always naked. That said though if the pupsters are not yet trained not to dash out the door them maybe a collar would be necessary for the time being . Every situation requires whatever is needed to keep them safe.


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I can't even begin to imagine the matting we'd have to deal with if i left their collars or harnesses on all day long. Doesn't seem comfortable at all for the dog and the clicking collar would drive me batty!!!!
Not sure I agree with trainer about helping teach dominance but hopefully more wiser members will chip in.

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Tucker's coller is on for walks only. Like the others have said don't want to deal with matting. Lucky's still a young pup so I'd be afraid of the collar getting caught on something and injuring him also.
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I don't use a collar on mine-except when walking on lead-and then only Miss Paige has a collar on-the other two have harnesses. I just feel safer with them in a harness. I use the Puppia harness because again I just feel more secure with them.

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OK, I'll be the differing opinion. Oscar has had a collar on 24/7 since about 3 months (he's now 6.5 months old). Maybe I'll change my mind when he blows coat and starts matting (though I'm told that rolled leather collars can nearly eliminate that), but for now, I love it. It makes it easy to attach his lead to go out to do his business, and I can always tell where he is by the sound of his tags jingling. I think it adds a layer of security should he ever bolt out the door (though he's chipped), and it means I always have on the town mandated rabies tag when out in public. It's a simple, lightweight fabric collar that I don't use for walks; I have a harness for that.

I rarely use it to restrain him, and only from behind, because once I tried to use it to extricate him from under the dining room table and he had a very negative reaction to that. I understand his reaction, but at the time it was my only option.

I also have a hard time conceiving of a way that the collar could get caught on something badly enough to do significant damage to him. Sure it's possible, but it's got to be WAY down there on the list of probable ways a dog could get injured in a human household, and I can't eliminate all of them, so I'll focus on the ones higher on the list.
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And no, I don't mean just for walks, but all day around the house. I take it off for bedtime since a collar in the crate sounds potentially hazardous to me, but I'm noticing a difference in behavior. Maybe it was the one training session we had last night where we learned some good things to teach Lucky (it was an hour which was way too long for Lucky but he loved it in the beginning-especially the treats which were of course just kibble but you would have thought were liver) but this idea that it's a safety option (i.e. it really is easier to catch hold of him when needed than without one) made sense to me actually and although he stood for a while waiting for me to remove it when we came in from our 99th unsuccessful potty trip outside (for this week), and shook it around for a bit on his neck, it seems to be calming him. Do you think it's a reminder that we're in charge? Am I over thinking this? Any other experiences with/perspectives on collars? It looks pretty cute and his tags jingling are frankly another good thing. You can actually here him underfoot. Mmmm.....
I think that collars around the house are a really personal decision. Most of us who keep their dogs in full coat do NOT have their dogs wear collars continuously, because it damages the coat. People who keep their dogs in puppy cuts often choose to leave collars on all the time. (though I agree with you, I'd never leave a dog in a wire crate with a collar on!)

I have a hard time figuring out why having a collar on would be a calming influence... that doesn't make much sense to me. It could be that, because he's not used to it, he's moving less because it bothers him a bit.

I must say that when Kodi is loose in the woods with me, I DO like to be able to hear his tags jingling. He typically stays very close. bit I still like to keep my eye on him. He often stays SO close that I can't see him with my peripheral vision, and up looking all around for him, when he's right at my feet. With the tags, I can hear that he's right at my heels and I don't worry about it.


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