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Low tail?

What does a low tail mean? My breeder said my puppy's tail is set just a little too low. Is this something I should be concerned about? Pet only, not show. And breeder is keeping the other for show. I fully understand her keeping the "best", just trying to figure this all out. It makes her rear end not look as tall. More level.

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It makes ABSOLUTELY NO difference in terms of pet quality. She may just not hold her tail up in a flag over her back the way most Havanese do, or she may only do it when she is moving. We once had someone on the forum with a rescue Havanese who had LOST his tail COMPLETELY and h still was just as fantastic a pet as every other Hav on the forum! If you don't intend to show in conformation, and love her in all other ways, I wouldn't let it worry you.

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Karen is right, tail set is only important in conformation, the tail set may even be so slight only a trained eye would notice. Our Hav's can control their tails, when scared or felling timid they may hold there tail down, or at half mast if unsure.

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I wanted to bring up a tail topic. I think Maddies is a bit low never has bothered me. Zoeys tail is set good for conformation but it is tight. What causes a tight tail. Is it just all the different genetic background and some have loose tails and some don't.

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A perfect tail set is something that is looked for in conformation. For our pet babies, a little high, a little low.......makes no difference. If your breeder hadn't mentioned it to you you probably would never know. Enjoy!!!

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I wanted to bring up a tail topic. I think Maddies is a bit low never has bothered me. Zoeys tail is set good for conformation but it is tight. What causes a tight tail. Is it just all the different genetic background and some have loose tails and some don't.
This is what the standard says:

"The tail is high-set and arches forward up over the back. It is plumed with long, silky hair. The tail plume may fall straight forward or to either side of the body."

So a tight tail should be penalized, but it is not a DQ. I've seen a lot of dogs with tight tails even at West Minster, so it is certainly not penalized heavily in an otherwise good dog.


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Do you mean that the tail curls tightly? I think that is what Rosie's does when it is up. When she lets it down it drags the ground. Well the hair drags the ground, the tail itself is not all that long.

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Do you mean that the tail curls tightly? I think that is what Rosie's does when it is up. When she lets it down it drags the ground. Well the hair drags the ground, the tail itself is not all that long.
Some Havs have tails that curl up, like a pug's tail. That's what is called a "tight tail". That is incorrect according to the standard, which calls for the tail to curve forward OVER the back. But as I said, it seems not to be viewed as a major fault by a lot of judges, because there are many successful show dogs with tight tails.

In any case, for a pet it makes absolutely NO difference at all.


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Course it make no difference to me either. But did I not read that the silks had flag tails and the regular Havanese had curved tails? Maybe I dreamed that. But Rosie doesn't have a flag tail, it curves over her back so that it touches the back. Good thing I love her. lol

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TAILSET and TAIL CARRIAGE are two different things. Tail set is just the location it comes off the rump at the base of the tail. It has to do with the angle of the pelvis, but it makes little difference other than minutia of conformation. The original standard called for a "crozier" (shepherds hook), but for a long time handlers have been holding tails down tight on the dogs back while on the table and in pictures. Our personal ideal is the original standard, others follow what handlers do.
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