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Whinning until the neighbors are complaining!!!

Hello everyone,its been a while since Ive been on line. Ive had 2 surgeries and been off work for almost a year. I am looking to go back to work soon but over the past few months when I leave Kaleb at home,I've been told by the neighbors that he cries loudly for hours. I took him to my daughters last week so we could go out shopping. I thought leaving him with her 2 dogs and my other dog would comfort him. We left all of them out and her neighbor complained of the same thing when we got home.We knew it was Kaleb because her dogs never cry and the neighbor said the cry was that of a little dog!!! I am so stressed because I have come to the point that we are taking turns leaving the house to make sure someone is home with them at all times.
I also have a black russian terrier and he gets her so worked up until she has chewed thru her metal kennel and has had explosive bloody diarrhea all over the house (stress colitis). Sasha didnt have any bloody stools at my daughters because she was there with the others dogs and that probably comforted her that she didnt have to sit there and listen to Kaleb crying alone.
The other issue that we are having is...he can go out and do his business and come right in and do his business again in my living room or under my bed!!!!
I dont want to get rid of him but I am at my wits end. I dont want to get a letter from my HOA!!! They could make the decision for me if he doesnt quiet down!!! ANY SUGGESTIONS WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
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is he crated while you are gone?? Is he accustom to a crate?

I recently experiemented with letting Tillie (2 yrs old) have free roam while I was "gone", she has always happily ran to her crate when I leave and gets her kong. she is perfectly peaceful and just sleeps while I am gone. I totally trust her, so I thought I'd try leaving her out.... I gave it three days and varied the amoutn of time I was gone and every time she would bark and howl the WHOLE time I was "gone" (I would drive down the street, park and walk back home LOL). and then we I DID come 'home' she would FREAK out and ended up panting for hours after we got home. For some reason it was incredbly stressful for her. Sooooooo, the crate it is!!

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He has always been crated since I brought him home. He isnt completely housebroken yet so I'm not sure as to what he will do. When I left him at my daughters he was not in the crate. When we are home I leave him out for a while after he's done his business but than he goes back in because he will have an accident.

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He's still having accidents? How old is he?
So, all of this crying is going on WHILE he is IN his crate?? Do you give him a kong or something to occupy himself for awhile??

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He was a year in Feb. so 16 months. I havent given him a toy that he hasnt destoyed. I stopped by the vet on my way home today and they suggested frozen peanut butter in the kong to occupy him. I will try that this week. I called the breeder and she suggested medicating him. I also talked to people at petsmart and they suggested a collar and plug in of endorphines that could help.
Ive always worked the night shift so they are just use to someone being home at all times.

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ooooooohhhhhhh... they are used to someone being home all the time... I'm sure Dave has some good articles on how to get them used to being alone and crated in SMALL increments... like put them in the crate with a kong (I use pb, cream cheese, some small treats, dehydrated salmon, cheese... if I have time I freeze it) leave for less than 5 minutes, don't make a big deal out of leaving or coming home...
And SLOWLY build up the time they are crated.
Have you had him since he was a puppy??

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Yes
I was actually on the phone with the breeder when he was born. As you know he follws me everywhere if hes not in his crate and OMG if I leave the room when he is crated he lets the neighbors know that too!!!!
My daughter said he is toooo attached to me!!

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Separation anxiety is hard, but there are ways to deal with it/get through it. Hopefully Dave or somebody else will chime in. I know that it's harder the older the dogs are, but I did what Tammy said above when Cey was little, and gave him special, long-lasting treats every time he was left alone when he was little, and he is just fine now when we leave him.

(The exception being if we come home after school/work and then leave him home alone again after that - THEN, he cries, according to my neighbor. I guess he figures that that is HIS time to be with us, which I guess is pretty reasonable!)
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Sounds like Pixie when we infrequently left her, she acted like she was going to have a nervous breakdown. Getting Mig solved that problem big time. Now if we're gone they have run of the house with no problems. She's much more relaxed than she used to be. That was our solution, but I do hope something alleviates yours soon-I know it's stressful.

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is he crated while you are gone?? Is he accustom to a crate?

I recently experiemented with letting Tillie (2 yrs old) have free roam while I was "gone", she has always happily ran to her crate when I leave and gets her kong. she is perfectly peaceful and just sleeps while I am gone. I totally trust her, so I thought I'd try leaving her out.... I gave it three days and varied the amoutn of time I was gone and every time she would bark and howl the WHOLE time I was "gone" (I would drive down the street, park and walk back home LOL). and then we I DID come 'home' she would FREAK out and ended up panting for hours after we got home. For some reason it was incredbly stressful for her. Sooooooo, the crate it is!!
Kodi will tolerate being left out, but he makes it VERY clear that he prefers his crate/pen when someone is not home with him. In his crate/pen, he is totally relaxed when we get home... he gets out of bed, stretches, then gives a calm, happy greating. If he's been loose, his greeting is frantic and over the top.

Oh, and we don't have a fenced yard, so it isn't an option, but I'm SURE Kodi wouldn't do well being left outside while I went somewhere. If he's out with me while I'm working on the garden, within half an hour or so, he's barking at the door to be let back inside!


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