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Need to vent AGAIN (long)

Seems like I have problems with other people watching/caring for Louis. I need to vent again. I've posted a previous incident in a past post back in April: (http://www.havaneseforum.com/showthread.php?t=17090)

Anyway, it was our wedding anniversary this weekend. We had been talking about getting away for the weekend at a Bed and Breakfast to celebrate. I was nervous about it because I hate leaving Louis in someone else's care because I feel like it ends up in disaster, as it did when I asked my cousin to stop by the house to let him out to potty.

I figured I need to let go of my fears about Louis, book the B&B, and have a good time. I asked my friend if she could watch my dogs for two days (Friday and Saturday) at her house. She does have six large dogs in her house already, but I've visited several times with my dogs and it wasn't bad.

Louis is a shy, fearful dog - who isn't potty trained. That is why I worry so much about him with other people. He will not go for strangers (even though he's met my friend several times at her home and my home), so although he was taken out in the backyard and walked, he would still not go. And then he would pee in the house. I do want to curb the amount of times he pees inside a home (whether mine or someone else's) because it encourages his desire to pee where ever and when ever he wants. I was told he peed several times in the house AND even in his crate. Peeing in his crate gets me cause he's never done that with me at my house. Maybe that scenario was too overwhelming for him with that many dogs? Who knows.

I also told my friend to tell her husband not to let Louis out off leash. He will NOT stay with any stranger, or even my husband for that matter, and WILL wander off. He will ONLY stay close to me off leash. She didn't tell him because she didn't think her husband would let him outside, but she did mention before she left to run errands, that if he took him out to have him leashed. I guess her husband thought Louis had to pee, so he let him out in the garage, thinking he'll stay close because Louis follows him everywhere in the house. Louis wandered off and he couldn't get him to come back. My friend's husband had a friend over and they chased him into the garage and cornered him. They were trying to keep him from running again and so the guy grabbed Louis as Louis tried to slip by and Louis BIT him. Mind you, Louis is very nervous with strangers, and afraid of men.

Louis bit hard enough to break the skin. When I went to pick up the dogs, my friend wasn't there, but her husband and his friend were there and didn't tell me about the incident! She told me about it later. When she told me I wasn't upset, but then the more I thought about it, the more pissed I got. People have told me that "Oh, your dog is a nervous dog? I bet you he will bite someone in no time." It's upsetting to hear your dog bit someone. It's also annoying how dumb people can be and not able to read a dog's body language to avoid getting bitten. I was told that the guy who got bit does not have dogs so he didn't know what he was doing. But let's say Louis was a giant Rottweiler - would he have just swooped in and grabbed him?? What makes people think it's okay to pick up or grab little dogs? And of course he'll probably brush off getting bit as no big deal cause Louis is a small dog - but I find any bite to a person by a dog unacceptable. This mess could have been avoided, and I should have been more clear about my instructions to her husband.

I originally planned to have my dogs stay at my friends house for a week when my husband and I go on vacation in a month. Now I'm not so sure. I'm okay with her watching my other dog (he has no problems there), but Louis just needs more individual attention. I was thinking about boarding him, but who's to say that boarding will be any better? I'm also looking into a pet sitter. Has anyone had good experiences with pet sitters staying in your home? I'm nervous about the in-home pet sitting idea. But I need some solutions on what to do with Louis when we go on vacation so I don't die of anxiety worrying about him!!

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I would get a professional in whatever form. And give them a heads up on his behavior. With friends like you've described, who needs enemies. .

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I would get a professional in whatever form. And give them a heads up on his behavior. With friends like you've described, who needs enemies. .
That's why I was looking into boarding or in-home pet sitting. I am leaning more towards in-home pet sitting because Louis will get individual attention 24/7 (of course if the pet sitter has to step out he will be crated), and he will be in a setting that is comfortable to him.

I've never used pet sitting services and just nervous that they'll actually follow my directions. The other option is to *maybe* let another friend watch him at his place but I don't know. I feel he will still have problems there no matter how good the intentions are of some people.

Another option, that I don't really care for, is to have a friend stay at our house for the week. It's just all our friends have busy lives of their own so tough for them to stay at our house just to focus on one dog. I've had a friend watch my dog (before I had Louis) and directions were still not followed. Why is it so hard for people to follow instructions?!

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in house pet sitter would be my choice then.

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Find a good kennel. They are used to all kinds of dogs. I would never expect someone with 6 large dogs to take on 2 more, with one not even house broken.
And I would never want anyone staying in my house, that's just me...
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that's definitely something to consider . If you do get a housesitter make sure of their credentials ie. security records. The best thing about in home sitter, is that it is a lot less stressful on the dog generally being in their own quiet environment.

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Have you thought about traveling with Louis. he's not a big dog.

My dogs don't do well away from their home. someone always comes to stay with them. and I have a great professional dog walker, who walks them either in the neighborhood or off leash, which ever I request.

as for the behaviors and pot training, you owe it to Louis to sort them out. I know you know he is shy and fearful, you don't know why.

I want you know that I know how you feel. My big female anatolian, when she was 18 months, and her instincts start to blossom, while barking her face off at a neighborhood walk on leash, she bit me. twice. inner thigh. didn't break skin, two different incidences, both while I was correcting her for her behavior. I got a trainer (again) and worked on it. that was yrs ago, she's 8 now, and does not do that anymore. Our bond is stronger b/c of it. **** happens. but don't let it keep happening. you have the power to change future outcomes for the better.
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Have you thought about traveling with Louis. he's not a big dog.

My dogs don't do well away from their home. someone always comes to stay with them. and I have a great professional dog walker, who walks them either in the neighborhood or off leash, which ever I request.

as for the behaviors and pot training, you owe it to Louis to sort them out. I know you know he is shy and fearful, you don't know why.

I want you know that I know how you feel. My big female anatolian, when she was 18 months, and her instincts start to blossom, while barking her face off at a neighborhood walk on leash, she bit me. twice. inner thigh. didn't break skin, two different incidences, both while I was correcting her for her behavior. I got a trainer (again) and worked on it. that was yrs ago, she's 8 now, and does not do that anymore. Our bond is stronger b/c of it. **** happens. but don't let it keep happening. you have the power to change future outcomes for the better.
Good stuff Jacqueline. Yep that's the danger of "corrections".

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I take my dogs to Camp Bow Wow occasionally for doggie day care. That business (I think it's a franchise) also has in-home care. You can hire someone to come and stay, or come and check in with your dogs, walk them, etc. They also have web cam access, so depending on how much time you wanted to devote to it, you could watch your doggies from your vacation. I know friends mean well, but sometimes paying a stranger to do a job where YOU'RE THE BOSS is a lot more effective. Yes it is more expensive than other options, but the peace of mind is sooo worth it to me.

My last dog was nervous and didn't like other dogs. Through word of mouth I heard about this gal that did in-home doggie care. She was a dream. She stayed at my house, watered my plants, took my dog for hikes and drives for $20/day (of course I tipped generously, because I always wanted to be the #1 person on her list!). I will never find that kind of sweet deal again! But maybe you can - but I would resist using a friend or family member.

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Louis's potty training was going really well at MY house. That is why I find it so important to not let him slip. I even got him bell-trained! He may not ring the bell all the time, but we are still working on it. I haven't had an accident in the house in a while, but still wouldn't call him potty trained.

I find it strange that he won't go for strangers, and even when I picked him up from the handler she said "Oh he's not used to going on a leash." But he pottied on a leash just fine, and this was when I was a stranger to him. So I know it's possible - I just think that the right person has to take him out.

I do feel iffy about someone being in my home, but people use housecleaners all the time, they are in people's homes and most people don't have a problem with this. Of course I will thoroughly interview the pet sitter to make sure she is the right fit (key word: She, I only want a female sitter so Louis won't be scared).

I would totally take Louis with me on vacation but I'm going on a cruise! They don't allow pets. I've taken him with me on all other trips (road trips). My husband knows how I worry about Louis so he found a B&B for our anniversary that was pet friendly but they were booked (they were the only pet friendly one). The one we chose did not allow pets. I wanted my friend to watch him for two days just to see how he would do (not well obviously).

I agree paying a stranger gets what you want better than asking a favor from family or friends.

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